I wonder, maybe they would have but that deciding vote IS powerful. (I just know Pence is infuriated he hasn't gotten to use it more, you could tell he was ready with the healthcare…) but overall I totally agree.

I too think he has a varied background. I've met him once and he really is a cool guy. I even considered myself a bernie supporter for a small amount of time (that "bird" moment was AMAZING!) last summer until I realized what was happening to the democratic party and that some of the more conservative members were…

There is a reason why they facebook messaged me those comments rather than respond to my open question on their pages when I asked why they were so opposed to her.

Absolutely agree, they aren't the direct physical precursors, or even the ideological precursors… but the mental and psychological precursors? Absolutely! which is why our founding fathers were almost all united against these parties… and even then some of them fell into the trap of parties in order to try to push…

Be surprised. I consider myself a part of many things and though I hesitate to group myself into any one particular niche I've been surprised by people who hold similar views to myself before. I live in Chicago currently, but have been all around the world and lived in multiple countries/states. I also have been a…

No thank you. I agree entirely. I worry about these things too, as someone who has intensely studied political/social theory/history… its natural that this happens. It's a shame that the internet has taken this cycle and aggravated it a thousand times until the point where its usually the loudest voices that get heard…

Listen, I'm not saying 1 is = to .01, I'm saying they are both numbers, and when you give the opposition/media what they want, they'll make them look the same and feed the same fires.

I know, I was just remarking ironically. Not calling out your words ;)

that's it, I even try a light joke with you and… no.

Right, because the solution is to ostracize more people and just lose the election and seats everywhere. Good job. Berniecrats have lost more races than they've won mate since 2016. Obviously their message is not effective… so while you maintain your high moral stance I'm looking to make actual progress.

Don't respect the party, never said I did. Stop putting words in my mouth or rephrasing for your attack messages. Beyond annoying now. You are one message away from me blocking you.

An individual I disagree with over things… being ill informed, who I know personally on many levels is entirely different from broadly generalizing for an entire swath of people and calling them without a semblance of judgement. I don't do that in my statements about bernie supporters, hell I used to BE one.

the paranoid inside me screams "INSIDE JOB!"

I know? I was pointing out it is ironic to me that she supports him.

I did not call them extreme here, though some are and their effect on our economic system if put into place without some sort of plan (which he does not have) would be devastating (though in the long run I think most of his policies are exactly what we need, we need a careful plan to get there which will take…

Very good point Banmar. I have often found that language has become another battleground. Its ironic to me that Kieta seems to want the same things I do, but has issues with the language I use to phrase it. Rather than agreeing with me, it became a topic of contention. Rather than finding a way to come together… it…

my standard answer is "back away slowly, while maintaining eye contact while looking for an exit" because these people are driven by hate/fear/jealousy/greed on their own. I admit as a white male my life has been easier than many, but I'm also well educated and an immigrant (dual citizen) who has seen the world in all…

that varies depending on who is doing the criticism, but I suspect it is harder for female "anything", throw mixed race on top of it and the assaults just get more complicated.

yet ironically enough a good biracial friend of mine from Cali *now living in Mass studying political theory while being a single mom* is a die hard bernie supporter and strongly resents that I consider her ill-informed. The world serves all sorts.