Well, at $3600/year in fuel costs, it would be cheaper to buy and insure a new Yaris iA or an off-lease Prius 1 for the exclusive purpose of driving to work. Let’s say that 12,000/15,000 miles are for annual commuting, and you only drove the Suburban for 3,000 miles/year, at 12.5 MPG and $2.40/gallon a brand new Yaris…

This is a good comment. I learned new things, read a well thought-out opinion, and was given data to back up your claim. Maybe you should be the writer here..?

But muh ICON investments

My 3/4-ton 6.0 Suburban averages around 12.5 mpg. Bad? Yes. However, I use it for family vacations to tow a travel trailer, I use it to tow old non-running project cars around on my car trailer, and I can use it to haul 8 people and their luggage in supreme comfort.

3 is kinda low balling it, though. Work commuter, utility vehicle, family vehicle, winter beater, weekend getaway car, off roader.......if you really think about it, 8 or 9 seems reasonable.

counter : all SUVs are stupid and only a fraction of the owners need their capacities. However, two door SUVs are even stupider because the whole point of SUVs is that they’re practical, I never look at my GC and think “you know what would be great? If it was harder for passengers to get in!”

Took the family and the camper to Moab last week where we did the Shafer trail among others, took a full load of gear from the office to a work site Friday. Using it as a family wagon all week. Taste of foot?

Miatas are not commuters; they are small race cars. If you’re not constantly using it to it’s full potential, then you should buy more cars.

Terrible take is terrible. What if you want to commute to work, carry a family AND still do SUV things? I should buy 3 cars? Nuts to you.

Interested to learn a few countries who have a smaller percentage of their population living in poverty? Here’s a small sampling of those greedy bastards. Ready? These countries have all have a smaller percentage of people living in poverty than Mexico:

Working on someone else’s car is always less stressful and more fun than working on your own.

17 year old me rocking a Discman in the middle of the night on an 8-hour high school sports bus trip thanks you.

Their followup Album “Look Forward in Frustration” is much more relevant to me and my life.

See, that’s the right way to handle the situation.

David David David.

If loving the Commander is wrong, then I don’t want to be right.

I don’t mind cutting of the front fenders on an XJ because you can pretty easily bolt-on some replacements once the moron who originally hacked them off gets tired of not being able to run a body lift and graduates to some other garbage brodozer thing.

No it’s not, but thanks for proving my point.

You are on the wroooooooong web site.

“We’re giving you this poor performance to improve your user experience. You’re welcome.”