Went to a 2005 then 2010 Explorer. The last of the body on frame Explorers, and it actually tows our boat , utility trailers, snowmobiles, etc. It really doesn’t get used for much other than that. The Freestyle was about dead from towing our aluminum deck boat. No way it would tow our Nautique.

Same.

That is exactly the problem. Any Joe of the street can attend just about any auto, boat, fishing, photography, etc. show. SEMA is one of the few where the public isn’t invited.

I’m trying to get my daughter to buy one. She’s not having it. Too boxy, too old, and ugly she says. I don’t know where she got this horrible habit of lying from. Certainly not from me.

Does it come with a dog pre-installed? NP either way, SNP with a dog.

So very true.

The latter more so than the former. Like I said, I bought my car there 16 years ago, this incident was 15 years ago. Likely, she is long gone, as is most of the sales/service staff. The only person who gave a damn last time I was in there (5-6 years ago) was the parts guy. He knew what he was selling, never tried…

I bought my TDI there (granted it was 16 years ago...). They were awful.

Worst dealer ever.

No worries. I’m not offended at all. No need to apologize.

Hell yes:

Dude. Guy’s talking about his daughter. I mean, I get it. I’m all for it. I also enjoy a pink interior, but not when someone is talking about their daughter. That’s just messed up. Unless you’re Bob’s son-in-law.

A million times this. How often do you see people on those stupid tiny house tv shows spend 80-90k on a friggen trailer. Just buy a foreclosure and actually have some equity, not to mention a legal residence. We don’t allow any living unit to be less than 600 sq/ft (per building code). The look on the people who…

James St. Brakes (or Breaks?)

Local State PD is about half and half Crown Vic’s and Taurus’. They have a smattering of Explorers and a couple of Chargers. A buddy of mine is a detective and has a Taurus. His car is difficult to spot normally, with the exception of the small radio antenna on the roof. Lights are hidden, the interior looks…

So true. Luxury car makers should take note.

The fake wood on my Fusion is some of the nicest fake wood I’ve ever seen. It’s matte and looks like actual wood. As a woodworker, I appreciate that (even more so if it was actual wood).

If it had more badges / stickers denoting it’s supercharged status, maybe it’d be a nice price. As is, total crack pipe.

Two things worry me:

Honestly, it’s no where near as good as the first (if I remember...).