I’ve been arguing all week with my friends who voted for President-Elect Cheeto, and all I have to say is this: If you tell me you “will not tolerate racism, hate, harassment or violence,” but you voted for Trump, then you really aren’t being true to your word.

Jez should create a living document of all these stories. There are already hundreds and it’s been four days.

nah

“Although I’m sure his replacement would be almost as bad so it’s cold comfort at best.”

My new mantra is that he can’t possibly go 4 years without fucking up and getting impeached. Although I’m sure his replacement would be almost as bad so it’s cold comfort at best.

That is unrealistic.HUNDREDS of gold medals are awarded at the olympics. Most readers of the BBC do not care about that particular medal. The part that makes it newsworthy is the proposal. I am almost certain that there would have been NO headline by the BBC without the proposal, so it is unfair to suggest that it is…

I agree 100% with everything you’ve said.

I don’t understand why it was necessary to make fun of the OP’s handle, when it had nothing to do with their comment. Seems rather aggressive.

they worked and shared a life and experience for 6 years dating and she says she wants to trust him for the rest of her life. So she has been working on both relationship and medal quite a long time. They are both athletes and I bet he recognizes her successes there. Just in general I think we look at marriage and…

Well...YEAH.

Because that’s called burying the lead. I’m not sure why this is actually divisive. We are in the western world, yes. We don’t care about Chinese silver medalists, unless we care about that event. We care about our athletes.

NPR’s headline called her fiance “also a winner” since she said yes. I like that they flipped it on him.

Or maybe he did because he’s known her for 6 years and you’ve literally never even heard of her before today? Sorry, you’re projecting your values on her and belittling her experience. That’s not feminism.

Agreed. As a man, I can practically trace his though process and see why he thought it was a good idea.

The problem is no outlet outside China would run that headline because no-one knows who Zi is in the West - or her fiancé, which is why the headline began ‘Chinese Diver’. Try re-writing it without the names and see how easy it is.

Some women DO want a huge public proposal, though, and this is about as huge and public as it gets. It wouldn’t be my personal cup of tea, but I have known many women who have made comments to the effect of their boyfriend had better come up with something good and flashy when he proposes if he knows what’s good for…

I just disagree that it’s a micro-aggression. This is a woman no one outside of China would have cared about. It’s not like she’s setting the Olympics on fire.

Yuck. How materialistic are you that a lanyard and trophy case is the best thing in life? Does life really peak at age 25? She’s got nothing to live for now? Given your attitude, maybe you should price it all out: diamonds are worth more than gold.

I agree. He did not stop to think. But I think that’s his crime, not a purposeful action to deprive her of her moment. And he did do that: He took away her moment.

This is just the kind of thing guys in love think up when it comes time to propose. Some guys rent a blimp. Others organize a flash mob. Me? Dinner in a fancy restaurant and a bended knee just after desert. But this guy thought of his proposal a few weeks or months ago and was like, “Holy shit this will be the best…