carpetboxer
carpetboxer
carpetboxer

Sanders is a flawed candidate. He could have been bolder on LGBT rights, and his lack of support for reparations is indefensible. When have I said he’s not flawed?

I have repeated multiple times that Sanders is not ideal, and he’s not the messiah. Saying so is a straw man. I’m saying nothing more or less than he’s better on these issues. Not ideal, but better.

By the way, I’ve managed to hold a discussion without making condescending, insulting, non sequitur remarks about who you are. I would call baseless personal attacks “trolling.” It’s possible have reasoned opinions without trolling.

I can only tell you what my personal experience has been. I’m glad you haven’t experienced the same.

you seem deeply inclined to make up shit about me.

No need to be condescending, and yes, in 2012, Obama and Clinton believed gay marriage was a states rights issue.

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I don’t see how arguing for accountability and transparency in our politicians is self-involved. Shutting down divergent voices, however, is.

I didn’t speculate on who you are.

It doesn’t take blind idealism to note that saying ‘marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman’ is horribly offensive.

Right and Clinton and Obama did not support gay marriage and then supported gay marriage as a states rights issue in 2012. In 2013, the Democratic Party adopted it as a federal/civil rights issue.

I am a woman and a minority, please do continue to tell me what my interests are.

Sanders has never made the insulting remarks that marriage is a ‘sacred bond between a man and a woman,’ that was Clinton.

Sanders individual LGBT advocacy runs deeper than Clinton’s and he’s never employed Clinton’s hateful rhetoric on gay marriage.

Acknowledging the political reality of gay marriage being a states

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And yes it’s much deeper than tacit support for Sanders; here’s Warren in her own words.

It’s up to Clinton. She’s already adopting many of Sanders’ platform positions. A positive indication she’s moving in the right direction would be her supporting the legislation Warren authored on reinstating Glass Steagall, which Sanders supports and Clinton does not.

And no, Clinton is not entitled to anything,

Here’s Shaun King on the difference between Sanders and Clinton’s support for the bill:

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Sanders said gay marriage was a states rights issue, something Obama and Clinton didn’t agree with until 2012, and then the party adopted it as a human rights issue in 2013.

Sanders ran because Warren didn’t run. Warren has faced immense pressure to endorse Clinton, and while she hasn’t endorsed him explicitly, she has tacitly endorsed his positions on Wall Street and corporate influence in politics.

You didn’t respond to all of the points made in my comment. Clinton is only responsible for the positions she supported and continues to support.

Because Sanders has managed to get this far as a “democratic socialist.” Because she’s a larger force than Sanders and the majority of the American public supports her positions.

Warren would have won the nomination hands down, and Sanders wouldn’t have run if she did.