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Dude. The whole "cherry-picking data" thing can sometimes be a legitimate complaint in science, because no one has access to absolutely all relevant data and the data are often opaque to begin with, so there's a definite risk that unscrupulous scientists will try to pass off an atypical result as a typical one (or

So, as long as people make a bunch of accusations, they are automatically true? I've seen several YouTube videos people post on here that point out her "lies" and every one of them is nitpicking some tiny point that she may or may not have gotten wrong. I kid you not, the last one I saw called her a liar because she

Of course I'm biased. Everyone has biases.

However, I'm more than willing to supply evidence and arguments to support my claims.

Just because you don't view something as "sexy" does not mean it isn't sexualized. The visual cues for that kind of thing are pretty clear and well-understood. I mean, aside from the fact that the character we're talking about is an actual prostitute (which is her sole defining feature in the game), there's the

I have watched the videos, and I'm familiar with how academia works. She didn't "silence" critics; I mean, here you are, right now, talking about it. Turning off comments on her Youtube videos (which, for god's sake, even people like TotalBiscuit have done) is not "silencing critics" in any meaningful sense.

When you

Little Sisters are defenseless children. Big Daddies are huge, hulking, armored, weaponized fighting machines. You have done a good job undermining your own argument.

Giving examples isn't cherry picking.

Saying that Far Cry's non-sexist content automatically negates its sexist content is literally the same argument as saying you can't be racist because you have black friends.

Being critical of video games is not "treating the medium as a punching bag." It's called "treating the medium with the respect it deserves." Film, books, music, literally every other artistic medium receives, and should receive, the same critical treatment.

The "Is she a gamer or not?" thing is...pretty much a pointless discussion, as far as I'm concerned, and is something she has addressed multiple times. Regardless, either her criticism is valid or it isn't; trying to dismiss her because she's "not a gamer" (or even because you believe she lied about it) is a textbook

If this is going to turn into an MRA thing, I'm afraid I'm not super interested. That said, I absolutely think there's a valuable discussion to be had about violence and men and the way that we often dismiss violence against men (particularly in domestic abuse situations).

The thing is, her video series isn't that

It's not about glorification, exactly. And I understand the argument about villains being bad guys, and all that. But...

Well, when you see writers using the victimization of helpless women (often sexually, but sometimes through non-sexual violence) over and over and over again as a shortcut to signify villainy, it

thunderf00t is an "atheist"/anti-feminist critic on Youtube who has produced some of the most famous "rebuttals" to her work. That's why I bring him up.

Do you have any examples of her confusion between a "general" trope and a gender-specific one? Regardless, I don't think it actually really matters, particularly if

Ah, but see, it's not simply about the fact that women are killed. It's the fact that those women are used as, essentially, props. Worse yet, they're usually sexualized props, adding a weird sexual angle to the violence committed against them. Often, it's a "kick the dog" moment, where an agency-free female character

If her arguments are shallow and dishonest, it should be trivially easy to provide an intellectually rigorous, honest rebuttal of them. I have yet to see anyone actually do that.

I've seen some critiques take (nuanced) issue with some of her points, and that's good! That's how this sort of discussion is supposed to

Eh...you can certainly make an argument to that effect, but there's also an argument to be made for taking portrayals on their own terms, divorced from the larger context.

For instance: the episode of Family Guy, "Quagmire's Dad", was explicitly intended by Seth MacFarlane to be a positive portrayal of trans people. He

It's really hilarious that the angry mob that follows her essentially helped make her all the more relevant. Instead of silencing her as they'd hoped they'd do, they helped make her become ever bigger a deal than they could handle. They will whine about how she doesn't belong on Colbert's show, and yet they're much

"Called out" by people who are generally either disingenuous or relying on extraordinarily shallow readings of her arguments, sure. I don't find that to be particularly meaningful.

I mean, some people may think thunderf00t is a great source of rebuttals. I've watched his videos on the subject, and they're

But that's the thing: the presence of all that other stuff doesn't somehow negate the bits she talks about. The question isn't "Is there other stuff in the game?", because there ALWAYS is. There's always going to be some justification, some reason why X is there in the game.

When looking at larger trends, though, it

"Cherry pick data"? If you're referring to Sarkeesian's videos, that's...not what's going on. Like, at all. Unless, of course, you want to argue that a huge chunk of academic cultural and media criticism is "cherry picking data".

And everyone has a political agenda. Choosing not to talk about this stuff is political;