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Rusty Shackleford
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Those wheezing 4 banger cars are still way faster around the track and in most cases, a straight line than anything from the 1960s. You are about 2 decades off here from that statement being accurate.

Fuck, there go my two guesses. I drive a Mini, so I am in the 4th most hated car. 

Considering that we now have higher speed limits and a VW Golf now weighs more than a Volvo 245 wagon did, more power is necessary. I mean a 3 series weighs almost 1,000 lbs more than it did 30 years ago. And it’s one thing when everyone has no power, but when the speed limit was 55mph, 0-60 didn’t matter.

We already have the Ukraine thing too and that made me immediately suspicious. 

This is such a heart breaking case for me because I do believe women when they come forward simply because to do so requires an immense amount of bravery due to the stigma involved. I believed Dr. Ford because she was drug out of the shadows and even went to testify in front of the Senate.

The Karma is like the XFL, doomed to failure every time. It wasn’t a good idea then and it is an even worse idea now. Did they even get to market in this country?

Star Trek IV is widely considered one of the best Trek movies. Double Dumbass on anyone who says otherwise.

The City on the Edge of Forever is my 2nd favorite Star Trek episode of the entire franchise only coming in second to the Pale Moon Light. City still makes me tear up at the end, just heart wrenching.

Bingo!

Same, I don’t waste my time with bad opps.

If you give your best price right away, buyers will always try and negotiate down further which isn’t possible.

You don’t get what you don’t ask for. I don’t work in car sales and I love customers who are black and white. It prevents my time from being wasted and if they buy, I will give a better deal because I know what I am working with.

I love customers like you, it’s win win when customers do their research first. Best part is, they are repeat buyers and I give good pricing because both parties know it is an easy sale. I work in enterprise software.

Do you know what you have? No lowballers? Jk, good move just ignoring.

That sucks, dick move on the dealer’s part and they lose all integrity when they pull shit like that.

The best way is to just ignore it. Contacting a sales person and wasting time is a dick move, they didn’t send the direct mailer, their marketing department and potentially the manufacturer did.

That is terrible advice for any salesperson or buyer, it is a waste of time. It is a huge fight and shows the buyer isn’t serious. If the buyer is serious, they would understand the market for the car and come in at a reasonable price. No one wins here being disingenuous on either side.

Hi, salesperson here, enterprise software, not cars. Treating us like assholes, wasting our time, and generally being a dick isn’t a way to win a sale, it makes you as bad as the scummy sales guy. We are not here to take your abuse or ridiculous offers, we are here to make a living. Is taking abuse part of the game?

Good dealers will know how to deal by not wasting your time in the sales office and will be accommodating of your time, but not so much as they seem desperate. I have come to deals over the course of an hour or a week, it just depended on whether or not I knew the dealer could come down further enough to be worth my

Pretty much at this point.