I recently watched “Long Way Up” and Rivian sure seems like they’re on the cusp of production.

They were trapped by Tokyo Drift there. The chronology of Fast and/or Furious is strangely complicated.

Nobody has voted Rivian yet, so there’s my vote. I like that truck, it has plenty of big time funding, it's not ridiculous looking, there have been numerous production ready prototypes out and about, and they’re built in the old Talon/Eclipse factory (that gets my sentimental vote). They’ve established a little bit of…

I dig it. I’d rather have a Rivian, but it’s certainly going to be appealing for it’s target demographic.

Not, $30k is not overpriced. 

Very popular in the Boston suburbs. I’m even starting to see some GV80's

Exactly. My Volt is not super quick, but that instant torque feels good. Very good. 

Tip for anyone who doesn’t know, it is better to have too much power than not enough power when starting on an incline.

Most EVs are super fast off of the line but my turbo’d Subaru feels so much faster cause it’s so tricked out with suspension and hearing the turbo and engine scream just adds to it.

Ha! Great analogy. I find this method works really well to start to familiarize people with using both of your feet, which is a foreign concept to a lot of drivers. You can teach the motions without the fear. I’ve taught probably 10 or so people how to drive standard, and I always start off in a chair inside. After…

Omg its so good:

This surprises nobody!

Unless I can program Rockfordesque J-turns, to hell with this mess!

Wouldn’t be surprised if they created program that uses the camera to ascertain curb distance, compares it against turn radius and crashes into a parked car.

Sure, that’s what it’s supposed to do.

I guess the original name ‘Grope and Stagger’ was too on the nose.

LA is very stupid

Lol, yeah... but TO THE MAX! Also, it’s four hours long.