Oddly, I have only been able to get into The [US ] Office recently. Being a devoted britcom fan, I tried the original a couple of times and while I got what it was trying to do, I just couldn’t because I really hate cringe comedy.

Turns out “Why can’t we have a Hulk movie”, secret answer was “We /cannot/ trust Mark”.

And let’s remember he followed this up by bootlegging the first half hour of Thor Ragnarok. Are we sure Holland is the biggest problem.

*SPOILERS FOR INFINITY WAR*

Agreed it is totally in line with his character - now the 2nd time hes had a massive powerful entity kill off a woman who loved him. He doesnt handle that well.

Also, he did essentially the same thing in Guardians 2 and beat Ego. His anger at Ego for killing his mom propels him to use his passion to control the planet’s power, and kill him.

The thing of it is that Starlord’s actions are in character. This is the guy who got into a pissing contest with Rocket over who was the better pilot that ended up crashing their ship. He has demonstrated a very distinct lack of emotional maturity in the previous movies. Starlord isn’t a villain, he’s a flawed…

Agreed. Jim isn’t supposed to be the stand-up guy who calls out harassment and inappropriate behavior in the workplace, he’s supposed to be the likeable coward who would rather stay silent about his office’s massive HR problems than risk losing his pitiable but safe job. And if people are being honest, that’s a much…

I’ve felt for a while that there’s been a breed of comedies where a character, like Michael, and Archie Bunker too, who is set up to be the “bad” guy. The one who says the inappropriate things that we know are wrong and are reacted too in that way by the other characters. BUT. Their lines still elicit a laugh, they…

Michael Scott was like a new Homer Simpson for the time. Homer Simpson on paper is a pretty monstrous individual; he’s lazy, he puts the town in perpetual danger because he’s so lazy, he ignores his wife’s needs and literally chokes his son with rage on a regular basis. In real life he’d almost certainly eventually…

It’s INSANE how poorly that show has aged in such a short period of time.

I think you’re right, it’s just that he’s supposed to be sympathetic and it’s a lot harder to sympathize with him. The show doesn’t really reconcile with that. Personally, it bugs me that Jim is always extremely successful at his work and Pam is always failing.

You know which sitcom aged realllllly poorly in a short period of time? How I Met Your Mother.

I don’t know, I preferred the UK, but I’ll give the US version some credit for not being wishy-washy; Michael often said very offensive and awful things (as did many of the other characters) and the show successfully played them for laughs without endorsing the behavior. The fact that you’re acting like “waitaminute,…

My problem with this take is that I never thought Jim was supposed to be a model for how one should act in such a situation. He’s more aware of the fact that he’s working a dead-end job in a completely inappropriate work environment, which makes the audience identify with him a bit more, but his response to this…

I quit watching regularly sometime around the Jim/Pam engagement, but every once in a while I’d tune in to see how the show was progressing and in the last few seasons it did seem to me that the show was asking us to view Michael and even Dwight sympathetically, which always seemed like a surefire sign that it had…

By the end (or the midpoint) yes, and in flashes here and there before that. He was an asshole in the early years, but Jim was definitely bullying the shit out of him to a degree that gets uncomfortable at points.

No he wasn’t but he was a good(if over the top, especially in later seasons) representation of a certain type of person that I know I at least have worked with in the past.

The work environment being toxic was an intended part of the show. It was never meant to make the audience feel comfortable.