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“The message of someone changing their attraction or desires is not the same as conversion therapy,” Sukert explained. “That whole thing is the use of psychotherapy to alter someone’s behavior, which is not what we’re communicating. What we’re saying is God changes the heart.”

The whole Hanoi Jane thing was a setup. She was a pretty naive peace protester who jumped at the opportunity to show the North Vietnamese as human beings who wanted peace as much as people in the US did. The North Vietnamese exploited this by cajoling her to pose on a anti-aircraft gun.

None of the people I’ve ever heard call Jane Fonda “Hanoi Jane” were veterans.

I watched the Vietnam documentary with my Vietnam vet dad and when the topic of “Hanoi Jane” came up he quickly said “oh who cares.”

Remind me again about how women’s rights are playing identity politics and they’re a distraction?

BONUS ROUND:

...muslims:

It’s incredibly frustrating, after living your whole life and understanding that A is logically followed by B and then C. The world seemed, for better or worse, rational. But in the past two years the world just seems to have lost all order and reason.

For those of you who didn’t click on the Carl Higbie link, here is what Trump’s appointee to run AmeriCorps thinks about...

Pro-lifers are some of the least compassionate people there are. Women don’t get abortions in the final trimester because they don’t feel like being pregnant any more. A woman who has a late term abortion is having it because there is something wrong with the pregnancy - it’s either hazardous to her or the fetus.

Jesus. Three are dead because she provided loving homes to children from terrible circumstances, some with debilitating illness. Soon Yi; the one Allen groomed, raped and married? The orphanage didn’t even know how old she was because of her malnutrition and she could barely speak when she came into Mia’s care.

Nope. The judge who heard all these allegations at the time decided upon them. Poor Woody that the judge’s DECISION on these allegations is now available for all to read. Does not remotely match your revisionist history- which the irony there in light of your attempts to discredit Dylan by claiming she was fed

Yes. The judge actually accused Allen - not Mia - of trying to manipulate the children in his ruling. Her main fault according to the judge? Trusting Allen for far too long.

I think the coaching women in the West are given throughout their lives to consider everyone’s feelings, not make a scene, and to doubt your own senses can slow (some) women to taking action on gut alone. (“He’s my partner and surrogate father to all my kids! Maybe I understood something benign?”) The Vanity Fair

The Washington Post just wrote a really interesting article about his private notes and what the reveal:

I think you’re confusing multiple stories: Mia and Woody adopted Dylan together (Ronan, formerly Satchel, is their biological child).

It is abominable - like a weird Freudian fairytale of misogynist cultural projection - that Woody Allen’s media team successfully cast Dylan Farrow’s accusations the byproduct of her vindictive, jealous mother, as though allegations of pedophilia are just par for the course in acrimonious divorces, as though a spurned

I didn’t see it as a dig, quite the opposite. Faye Dunaway is a fucking legend but she doesn’t have the economic power to match, and the only explanation for that is sexism.

She’s not dragging Faye, but rather pointing out how dispossable women are in Hollywood. Faye was huge in the late-60s/70s, was in films that made money, had massive critical acclaim, and an Oscar to boot. Then, she made two films that flopped, and her career was dead. She has tried resurrecting it - even going over

No one fucking needs a man to jump in to tell us what he thinks women should be doing. Shut the fuck up.