+10 points on the hp take. The numbers here are largely just brochure fodder anyways, similar to 0-60 figures which serve as bragging rights but really make a minimal difference in real life driving.

well is it crash or emissions that keep most cars out???? i think its emissions for european vehicles.  with the switch to electric and no emissions we might be able to get the next electric alpine. 

The fact that this is some lame-o training facility and not an amusement park is some serious bullshit.

We only get some Lotus’s.

This is a solid plan to bring the franchise into a different time period.

I think this puts too fine a point on it. The best example I can think of is us. Are we the same person as when we are born? I’m fairly sure there’s not a single cell left from that day. Yet we are we. The “we” is the collective set of experiences and evolved consciousness associated with the metaphysical construct…

Ding Ding Ding!!!! This is the answer.

Bullying?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

As a strict member of the “engineering efficiency” cult, I can understand mechanical watches. It’s basically functional jewelry, and mechanical movements are even spec’ed by the number of jewels in them.

Sorry, you’re just wrong; plenty of car people can’t spin a lug nut or want to read anything more than a Twitter post.

The whole unity thing notwithstanding, the advertisement/message from Jeep here just fell very flat on multiple levels. Primarily I feel that using Bruce alone to deliver the message was a mistake as, justified or not, the people who actually need to be calmed down have long seen Springsteen as some hypocritical…

It’s a lot of different things, and those things just happen to come together with a lot of the many different reasons people are into cars, including some of the snarky comments here. For some it is the esoteric subtle display of wealth, “If you know you know”. But that’s not entirely the case. Plenty of car people…

I actually own a Tesla, and I like to tell people that the car’s worst feature is other Tesla owners, followed closely by Tesla (the company) itself.

Oh everybody dreams of themselves sometimes, I am sure.

Blinkerton Torchworth III, Esquire

Or perhaps The Gilded Torch?

Klüdgenfreude?

Could the two be put together - Verschlimmbessertschöpferstolz - to mean ‘Pride in creating something that you really shouldn’t be that proud of making’?

Only the Republican party is capable of convincing an entire segment of the population that a democratic government’s sole purpose is to better the lives of it’s population by paying for shit.