Babies can, fetuses cannot. What we think of as human consciousness, which is what we're actually talking about here, doesn't start until fairly late in a pregnancy. The brain simply isn't developed. So especially first trimester abortions, which is the vast majority of abortion, the fust does not feel pain or…

Yes, but it'd still be a white person wearing another race as a "costume", which still harkens back to blackface and minstrel shows. So it's still really problematic.

Well, yes, other types of "face" are racist. Such as "yellowface" and "brownface". Because they strip out the person of color. See the debacle over the live action version of Avatar: The Last Airbender for some good examples of why this is problematic.

It's almost like actresses are real people who ::gasp:: don't feel like dressing for other peoples approval 24/7. Weird!

Yeah, it's really terrible I give a shit about racism. Hilariously, I have time to do useful things AND not justify racism on the internet. Crazy!

No, it's evolved since then. And yeah, I think a mask would still be problematic. If you want to dress up as another person, there are so many identifiers that don't involve skin color.

Right, because all history happens in little self-contained vacuums that never, ever, influence any other times in history, or our cultural perceptions of each other. Are you kidding? Blackface is not just the Al Jolson, extreme version, anymore. Racism, funnily enough, can be both overt and covert. A lot of stuff…

Because white people have privilege and "white face" does absolutely nothing but subvert the status quo and ALREADY RACIST blackface. It doesn't suddenly make white people oppressed or discriminated against, either personally or systemically. Also: It's called historical context, go read up on it.

Still not even remotely the same thing. Because white people are not discriminated against or subjected to systemic racism. Look up white privilege. At worst "whiteface" is a reaction to and subversion of blackface. Try again.

Intent is not the issue, execution and context in our culture are. We don't just live in some vacuum where there is no historical relevance to our actions.

They aren't, though. Because of historical context. A black person wearing "white face" has zero racist history of dehumanizing, belittling, and mockery. By using it in this context you were implying they were related. They are not.

Well, no, racism also has to do with privilege and whether said discrimination has the ability to limit your life to any significant degree. White people don't experience racism just because a person of color doesn't like them for being white. It doesn't effect their ability to live their life or have any significant…

Being "limited" to your own ethnicity when it comes to costumes as a white person is A. not even remotely racist and B. when there's more than 100 years worth of racism involved, I think you can manage to dress up like a poc you like WITHOUT blackface. Because of its history its inherently problematic and, whatever…

RIGHT. Holy. Shit. I can't even. Someone actually asked if there was a "history where this is a problem"? YES. ALL OF IT OMG.

Wow, yes, there is a very long history that makes this extremely racist. Please Google Al Jolson, History of Blackface, racism in America, and just...a lot of history. A lot. You have a lot of reading to do.

Wait. Blackface is inherently a costume. That was how it started. As a mocking costume white entertainers wore to make fun of black people. I don't see how this example changes that, or isn't complicit in that problem, or how something being a "costume" nullifies racism. It can be a costume AND racist.We still live in…

But Saint Vader...who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool or follows him?

Even though Dunham's character says the "I think I might be the voice of my generation, or a voice of a generation" it was clearly meant humorously, as the kind of self-aggrandizing thing you might say in your 20's because you're a bit of a twit. It's really ironic that other venues have started calling her and her…

Wow. Awful body snark aside, I'm not sure she's watched the same show.