Anyone else annoyed that they wasted time on that grotesque Jared’s Birth Family bit only to never come back to it, and for it to not change his character (from our perspective) at all? 

I think the show has a really good grasp on how an audience can look at Dr. Manhattan and still maintain suspension of disbelief. Hiding his face from us initially, getting him in his Cal suit quickly, making him an iota more human—that allows us to believe that he’s real, and believe that all these women are falling…

That’s the brilliant, infuriating thing about Doctor Manhattan. Does he really do anything with motivation? Or is he just doing things because he knows that he does them?

I’d forgotten how little we know him based just on the TV series! I think if you already know the character you’re thinking, “I feel ya Angela, but there is no way Doctor Manhattan is doing something that contradicts what he’s already experienced, that’s not how he do.” But if you don’t know the character well you’re…

She didn’t figure out he was her father until the events of the book, though. 

I think that was a different guy—the guy Richard mentions at the groundbreaking had written the book Gavin plagiarized for Cold Ice Cream and Hot Kisses.

I thought it was Denpak for a second, though.

Exactly! Arguably getting too into all of that would’ve brought us into appropriative Tootsie territory, so it’s probably just as well they didn’t spend a lot of time on it. I get why they lampshaded it. It seems to me like the opposite of blackface in terms of the SHOW but maybe in terms of the character? Interesting…

The world was saved because Gilfoyle trusted Dinesh.

<3 <3 <3

Also fuck, if Dr Manhattan really dies my heart just breaks for those poor fucking kids. 

Brilliant, beautiful episode. Though I felt like they wrote Angela a little dumb in the swimming pool scene (she’d lived with full-on-aggravating Dr M for 6 months, she understands his perceptions of time.)

It’s also possible we haven’t met Original Eve yet. Maybe she’s the executioner? 

Yep! Pretty sure that in the book she’d assumed Hooded Justice was her father. (Possibly until she finally read Under the Hood, which Sally tried to keep her from doing? I think Hollis outed HJ and Mr. M in that.) 

Blackface is when a white actor changes their appearance to play a black character. Problems with blackface include its history of mocking people of color and denying them opportunities to play themselves.

Agreed that this annoying flaw is the essence of who he is as a character--but I don’t know that pursuing Angela is the exception. He goes to her when he does because he sees himself doing so, right? 

Another bi person here, and I thought there was crazy sexual energy between June and Will, particularly in the scene right after his cadet graduation, when they’re in the bar. Plus if their relationship weren’t sexual, and they were having sex only for the purpose of having a baby, I think the pregnancy reveal…

Come to think of it--kind of weird that she didn’t move in with him, since she hated her house and his had all the books. 

I just don’t see how she’s so very toxic. She really helped Eleanor on Earth, and most of her behavior in the experiment came from an entirely merited skepticism. 

Huh? Actors almost ALWAYS have their characters lie poorly, so the audience knows they’re lying. I actually kind of hate it.

Why would they show us the stuff we’d already seen?

Really not comfortable with the Simone hate popping up in comments.

Simone improved--and since she was probably a better person on Earth than John was, it’s not surprising that her improvement would be a lower percentage.