Yup. Especially since you cans spend 40k plus on a Camry now. Crazy times.

I disagree. I have a current 4Runner but my 06 V8 matched or bested my ‘16 V6 mpg most of the time. Towing was a lot easier as well. I can’t for the life of my figure out why they killed tha V8.

You must have disproportionately lengthed legs

You forgot a third

We all don’t live in Michigan

The average mom and dad aren’t exactly doing hot laps in between soccer practice and picking up pizza for dinner.

This isn’t a republican or democrat thing but, the woman just sounds like an idiot. Has anyone here actually heard her speak?  Zero cohesive arguments.

This is surely a sign of the times and the impending sedancopalypse.

You joke but that V6 needs all the air intake in can get.

I guess I ought to thank him for motivating me to move out of New York and reap all the benefits of lower taxes. Yay Cuomo!

This has nothing to do with Tesla’s fanboys and believing the system is more capable than it really is. It has everything to do with objective testing of each system by different agencies. At this point Nissan’s Pro Pilot is a better all around system than Volvo’s Pilot Assist. I don’t have a Tesla but if you think Pil…

Volvo Pilot Assist is absolutely NOT in the same category as GM’s and Tesla’s systems. Who told you that, the dealer?

I can attest. She’s definitely as advertised.

Not to mention, how do you take into account how people have maintained their used cars or how they’ve driven them.

I can sense the sarcasm but I felt the same way at some point. We take pretty long trips (about 1600 miles round trip) a few times a year. Currently I think some Tesla models have about a 300 mile range. You may be the outlier here if you travel alone most of the time, but for my family of 4, 250 miles is…

Uhh..3 years is actually pretty good in between smartphone purchases. It’s not about having the latest and greatest sometimes.

Not sure when my next purchase will be, but it will more than likely by an EV. At this point, to me it seems ICE engines are just outdated.

I know you are but what am I ? Common, what are we doing here?

Right, you’re too deep now to concede how dumb you sound.  I get it.

Doubling down ? I like it.