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Gauges from the 1980s were far more primitive but also far cooler-looking. Their aged look can invoke nostalgia in some, like me. This? This is just bland.

Not gonna lie, a $45,000 performance trim on a car like this sounds incredibly appealing. But, as others have said, now that’s Supra money and Toyota isn’t about to toss the investment made into the Supra just to sell a budget M2 (that probably actually drives better than an M2).

I don’t think they are gung-ho to get rid of them as much as they are gung-ho for more power and they see that a form-fit-function replacement with a turbocharger that is already built and likely matched to the transmission options in this car is the “quickest and easiest” solution.

Ok boomer.

Cry moar, boomer.

Yes, I do actually.

Yes, in July, it was an S60 T6 R-Design. In no way, shape, or form was it an improvement over the S3 I already have when it comes to comfort or driving dynamics.

That is a severe case of projection you have going on there. Have a better one!

Right on.

Whoosh.

I will say Volvo’s interiors are nicer than a Tesla. When I start comparing it against other comparably priced luxury segment competitors, though, I find myself trying to rationalize the meh materials are compensated for by looking nice on the whole and simply being different. The reality when I take off the

Why in the hell wouldn’t I just buy the base model and do an aftermarket update that unlocks all that for next to nothing?

Thanks for the info.

Cars can only be designed to meet one emissions target at a time per location. The issue with CA is that it doesn’t have one emissions target; my understanding is that CA has a rolling emissions target, so any car there inherently has a more limited lifespan because, eventually, it cannot meet the rolling target.

VW currently has the best opportunity in decades to gain a lead in the NA market by taking that huge chunk of investment and spending it on building out charging infrastructure synergizing with their electric platforms (MEB, J1), making their cars more attractive than most of the competition and rendering them second

Count me in as one of those “nothing but electric” buyers. I’m just waiting for the right car to become available. Right now, Audi seems it, but I’m not averse to anybody coming up with a more compelling alternative.

The Golf has interesting trims that are counted in its sales figures, but the point is still sound. In the US, the best-selling is the F-150...other than the Raptor, not a particularly interesting vehicle.

So...it’s a Volvo, then?

Kind of apples and main combat tanks, there, but the point is made and I agree. Available EV options right now kind of suck. None are well-rounded enough or nice enough in their price ranges.

They only used the carbon body to get the incredible weight down. That’s also likely why they decided it wouldn’t make a good fit for Volvo. The sharp creases are a byproduct of using carbon, not the original intent.