I would bet that the producer of Volvo’s motor is a domestic Chinese manufacturer. I also wouldn’t be surprised if it is one that Geely has a stake in.

And the interior if I’m being honest. It’s a mess of chintzy shit, the Mk. 7.5 was nicer in build and presentation.

You don’t get snob scorn because nobody cares about them...because they don’t provide any reason to care about them. BMW and Audi are sport prestige brands, MB is that plus being the OG car manufacturer and the OG luxury brand. Volvo? They are safe...which mattered once but doesn’t anymore because they aren’t…

This means that dealers who agree to shell out the dough for new showrooms make more money off the cars they sell or are able to offer them at a cheaper price, undercutting noncompliant dealers.

It’s almost like they need something to transmit the power to the wheels at variable ratios, optimizing for top speed and energy economy.

But then you have to drive a modern Volvo.

I’m still mad that Audi went on-record saying they would bring over the 6-speed manual on the recently-departed S3 for the US market, and then doubling back on it and failing to deliver the goods.

If it makes life a little bit more difficult for the CCP, it’s worth it.

It is the gold speaker cones that adds the most to the interior’s visual ambience with the B&W system, and from 2021 they are now a black chrome. So that’s gone, boo-hiss.

You can try, but the Volvo will fight you the whole time.

There is already a flood of used Volvos for cheap. If you want an S60 in particular, there is even a flood of NEW Volvos for cheap.

Maybe. If the choice is government bail-out or Chinese buy-out, I will choose government bail-out every time.

And? 100 years ago, the legacy automakers created the future for Tesla to play in. I’m not refuting that Tesla was instrumental in kicking some asses into gear and I’m not saying Tesla is going to disappear. All I’m saying is that they are still visible amateurs in this industry and there are ways that the established…

I definitely agree that GM is screwing itself long-term by not investing massively into a charging network. The Supercharger network is the single greatest asset of owning a Tesla over any other brand’s electric car, especially in North America, and that cannot be stressed enough.

I agree. I think FCA/PSA/Stellantis is in an existential crisis that they’ve failed to acknowledge or mitigate. Ditto Subaru and Mazda, and possibly even Toyota. Nissan is in a crisis right now for more classic reasons, but it’s going to have knock-on effects later if they don’t correct course.

I think incentives are going to have their part to play, because I agree. I think the Bolt is the best EV you can buy that isn’t a Tesla because it’s a mature platform, it has incentives, and the range is decent for what it is.

Doesn’t matter how far away they are now or have been for the last 10 years, the rules of diminishing returns favor legacy automakers catching up. Even still, they are only just now putting their weight behind EVs in earnest; I think the second generation of VAG’s PPE and MEB platforms will pretty much seal the deal…

I am not disagreeing. Rather, I am stating that when it becomes clear that Tesla aren’t the only ones who know what the future wants, the fantasy Tesla is living in will collapse.

They are piling onto Tesla because Tesla has its finger on the pulse of the immediate future of transportation. When legacy automakers catch up, and they absolutely will, that’s when the fun begins.

Right, I mean it’s the antithesis of the new EV Hummer. It achieves very similar performance, it just does it in the most inefficient, old-fashioned way possible versus the newest and most technologically advanced solution. And the price isn’t even that far off. One is all noise and middle fingers to mild manners, the…