Yeah, Stefan has been very non-Stefan like, losing all of his best qualities. Tripp hasn't kept anyone else alive, although why wouldn't Tripp seek Stefan out again for his help?

She's very intense. At first I thought it was cool how confident she was to go after someone she was interested in. Then it got weird with the whole following him thing.

There's a theory floating that she's Kai's sister. I don't know how that would make her comfortable with vampires though, so I'm not sure about it.

I'm not a teen, but Craig Parker is a handsome, handsome man and that whole thing he has going on can be sexy, but I didn't think this particular episode did him any favors. Paying to peep on Lola didn't come across in the way I think they wanted it to.

The problem with CW Survivor is that you'd need to get all the non-superhero and supernaturals out of the way. Who does that leave? Jane the Virgin, Sam and (not-Demon) Dean Winchester, Reign, the 100 people, and Tyra Banks?

Well rather than all of the historical inaccuracies, the whole Francis-Mary thing is terrible for any woman who is concerned she's only valuable if she can deliver a child. That still happens to people to this day and to prey on that weakness is cruel. This show shouldn't give me more reasons to dislike Francis.

Yes, I couldn't get the Orphan Black comparison out of my head once I saw it. (Orphan Black twin is better looking. They have a Joaquin Phoenix vibe.)

Yeah, after such a great episode last week, this was a disappointment.

You know OB/GYNs do more than deliver babies, right? Or just have pregnant patients? I never mentioned wanting to see her actually deliver a baby, but I think they should focus on the office and how that keeps this group of people together. That's just my opinion and while you think they haven't forgotten they work in…

Do you really think that's what I'm trying to say? How many times have you seen Mindy deliver a baby to say it's too many?

Mentioning it and actually using the setting are different though. They haven't done a pregnancy storyline in forever, but working together in the office is something they used to do. Balancing Mindy's ridiculousness versus her educated profession is important. It's the same thing with Peter. Reinforcing they aren't…

It doesn't need to the whole focus and they have clearly been moving past the doctor's office setting, but I think this season could stand to change it up and getting back to the setting that brings them together could be a nice start.

I thought there was too much Annie in this and not enough of the others, especially Kaye and Jake. Injury guy didn't help. Annie might be the glue that holds them together, but she was so dominant it took away from the whole.

I just didn't love it. I thought it was good and while it's great that Mindy and Danny are happy, I think I'd rather see something different. Remember when Mindy was a doctor in spite of all her ridiculousness?

Bonding over murder? She should. It sounds so romantic. I saw an interview that said we'd learn more about Liv and why she is the way she is around Tyler.

You're not wrong and I agree with a lot of what you wrote, but I thought this episode had a lot going for it, especially plot churning. That's the TVD I want to watch and for episode 5, I like it. Things happened! (Nina did sound very raspy, especially at the start of the episode.) I'm so biased regarding Caroline and…

I would like to see more of her dress. Maybe I'll Google around for it. Coming down the aisle her bouquet dominated.

Emile was the nephew's name. Maybe?

TVD: I haven't been sure about how I felt about prior episodes or the season so far, but this one? It was fantastic. There were so many interesting and exciting things going on. In fact, I liked everything except the Stefan-Caroline stuff, no surprise there though.

This episode was definitely the weakest by far. The odd juxtaposition of religion, Francis being haunted, and a sex journal did not work together.