I hate her too. Can't stand to watch her.

True. There's no time to develop him. We have Rat and the teenager, Chibs and the sheriff, and Jax the mastermind, and Gemma and all such compelling human stories to spend all the time on.

I believe it.

Starting in S1, maybe E1 her main part was seaching people's stuff, eavesdropping, snooping, tottering around bent forward in her high heels and tight clothes.

agree.

That's my guess—Gemma. He really liked his sister. Maybe incest is best.

Yeah. I guess none of them are pc metrosexuals. Never heard Oswald do it.

Police chief of Charming. Sheriffs are San Joaquin county. They were given jurisdiction after Hale was killed. Too bad I can't make a living off of remembering useless things.

You've got a lot of stuff mixed up. No wonder though since it doesn't make much sense anymore.

"A lot of accidents happen out of love."

This whole "relationship" just came out of nowhere. There's been no "development", and she wants him to prove his "love". Right.

Nah. Nobody has ever asked what she and Juice were doing at Tara's house and available to see anybody leave. Maddening!

I thought I caught some faint signs of returning humanity in him also. It will really hurt when he comes to. He's always had a guilty streak a mile wide; it just doesn't affect his behavior.

Since when does she help anybody but herself? Her little son in his thirties can't choose a woman, choose a life. She probably picks out his white sneakers.

What did he say? I couldn't stand to watch.

Or forced him to take a bath and change shirts.

Totally realistic! She has throughout threatened, beat and shoved, bustled her big bony self into the police station and done whatever she wanted, all without penalty or interference.

Me too! I accidentally watched sometime during S5, and bingewatched to catch up. Actually, I got hooked! I thought it was going somewhere, that it was going to follow through on some of the premises. If nothing else would discourage an audience…ALL THOSE COMMERCIALS !

They do. It's about being low class, not because they ride motorcycles. They are not what you would call politically correct. It's part of Sutter's aim to shock, which is his definition of good drama.

From the beginning, nobody talks to anybody else. Nobody ever tells the truth. Nobody ever asks the obvious questions. I have said before that the only Shakespearean thing about Sons is that the whole plot moves on misunderstandings and misinformation.