Respectfully, why do you hate it? Contemporary relevance of Mad Men is one of the reasons why the show is so excellent, and a lot of viewers don't know the history and need it spelled out.

@avclub-c722c3a0141d8ccebbee6869f18478c9:disqus I angrily disagree with every single thing you wrote.

But it was such bullshit. "Hypocrisy." Working at a firm that takes on an evil client — and suffering over it, ethically — is totally different from being an unconcerned, totally amoral, rich partner at the same firm who clearly does no work, has no talent, and doesn't have the slightest compunctions about anything,…

@avclub-b90391459007fbc002dee3084fef650b:disqus You have no idea.

Are you kidding? He's horrible…a total creep. I love that Ginsberg screamed at him like that, and he just stood there, inert, like the totally self-absorbed, contemptible business fuck he is.

Respectfully, that's ridiculous. An idiosyncratic boss/underling relationship in the middle of the most culturally-factionalized year in 20th Century American history — an anachronism by modern standards — and, based on this, you've decided that the show "isn't reality" based and you're tired of it?

Yeah, but if I remember that right, Pete was poaching, whereas Joan's solely responsible for this client.

Yeah, exactly. I hadn't drawn the overt connection, but I think you're right; the violence that's on the edges of everything, steadily creeping inwards, was something that Joan (and, elsewhere, Megan — but not Don) was feeling, and I think it pushed her towards action.

I used to be much more contemptuous of Roger Sterling (but then, I think he used to be much more contemptible, back at the old firm where he would just laze around his sepulchral office reading the newspaper or playing with a paddle toy). In the current environment, his instincts and his poise and bearing are…

Yeah. I can definitely see the point, and I liked the character, too (and I'm curious what he's up to, as well).

Watching it now on Netflix. I don't think the Janice Ian song is so bad!

@kencosgrove:disqus Well, Glen Bishop doesn't count.

@kencosgrove:disqus Sal's done, man. Let it go.

I can't understand why Todd views this episode as lacking cohesion. It seemed to me that all of its pieces fit together perfectly: every single thing that happened felt like another pebble in a coming avalanche of destruction.

@avclub-4ffabf87500b89362ca0abc12daf720b:disqus Right. If there's one thing in Star Wars that doesn't hold up under any scrutiny at all, it's Lucas' use of numbers.

It's also very interesting that they somehow knew to use "crummy" sets (and that excellent studio design, with the bric-à-brac-covered exposed-brick walls and the "skylight" and the rickety staircase, as if you weren't halfway up a Manhattan skyscraper) and the cheap effects and visible microphones and audience…and…

I understand, but I somehow still manage to blame Henson.

The material's not that good, but the sensibility is perfect, and priceless.

So, is she wearing a Star Trek uniform, or what?

What do you mean, "Alderaan's population is estimated between 2 and 8 billion"? It's not real.