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Hey sweettweeny! I hope you are doing well. I'll look at spoilertv and you'll see me around here every once and while—still curious to hear what people think. I hope the writers find a way to treat their lead character well at some point in the future. I also hope the writers will write as if they had seen previous

I didn't watch this mess, but I still enjoy looking over the recap and comments. So, just to check: did Mellie and Olivia raise a glass and celebrate their decision to release a mass murderer from prison (who killed Mellie's son)? Did Mellie apologize for calling Olivia a whore multiple times?

Also, I'd imagine the U-Bahn at Hauptbahnhof has enough security cameras monitoring it for train personnel and/or station security to notice three gates being closed and commuters beginning to gather in large groups around them. Security teams at the station should have been immediately sent to investigate and unlock

So basically Noah believes women and/or family is an—or really the—obstacle to a man achieving his greatness. He also believes history is a top-down record of great men accomplishing great things. His gender views are more compatible with the times of the historical figures he's citing; no wonder he finds himself so

I agree about the irony, but I also think calling Noah's brand of "love" "co-dependent" is being too generous, although calling it pathological feels closer to what it sometimes seems to be. One of the elements of his love for Alison that I find so unsettling (which culminated in the rape scene a few episodes ago) is

That rescue scene in the hotel was one of the most upsetting, disturbing things I've ever watched.

Yeah, Olivia really should have returned the ring before she left. Also, I guess the ring's name, Sweet Baby, just took on another dimension. In any case, I hope she isn't wearing it when Scandal returns.

I agree that they should have just killed the relationship earlier. I also agree that it would be nice if the writers saw Scandal as the journey of Olivia Pope, as the Kings' see The Good Wife as the journey of Alicia Florrick, but honestly, perhaps the only clear journey Scandal has bothered to portray is Mellie's

Wow, excellent post. I think you hit upon the major frustration of watching Scandal—the way they treat each episode as if it was self contained and we aren't supposed to remember anything that came before it. I think I agree with everything you are saying other than to point out 1) she should have been upset about the

I see what you're saying. I think maybe they both don't know how to be in a real relationship. Or at least a real relationship with each other. They said they tried, but they didn't really—to try, they would have needed to talk to one another every step of the way. I mean your version is close to what Jake said—that

I thought it was a meaningful argument that hit on some truths (that Olivia only likes Fitz unavailable, that he was punishing her, even if he wasn't aware he was). Most crucially, they both arrived at the conclusion that they don't work together, which is a very meaningful thing to realize. I just found the way

You are right. I just hope that even if Scandal sells it, the audience doesn't buy it.

I hadn't realized the Secret Service was there. It would be pretty bad if he found that out through a third party. I hope the show just doesn't go there; it shouldn't use the abortion for plot shocks.

But Olivia never should have been obligated to sit at the "wives table" (although, again, I have no idea why she was since the show didn't explain why living in the White House = being First Lady, even if you aren't married). I guess Fitz explained it as "we're just doing this temporarily" but that didn't really make

Ultimately, they were just incapable of communicating, or the show didn't want them communicating. I think in the first episode of the season, Olivia and Fitz had a conversation about what they wanted (sort of) and then the photos were released. After that, they didn't make a single decision in consultation with one

Sure, Mellie did something terrible and the show will pretend it didn't happen. I know the show hopes the audience is forgetful enough not to notice its continuity gaps, but I don't think even Scandal can sell Rowan as a good guy and imperfect father who means well.

Yeah, I was just saying that it would be useful for the show to confront his emotional baggage. I mean, his suicide attempt was basically treated as a punchline—Mellie made fun of him for it. That's kind of terrible.

Depression isn't the same thing as being weak and spineless; he could move on, for instance, if the show had him confront his demons or work more efficiently with them. I mean the only character they really did that with is Mellie—we were allowed to see her grieve after Jerry's death and how she broke out of it. The

But Rowan will always have caused more death and destruction than any other character on this show.

That isn't what either of them said though. Fitz said "I knew where you came from, but…" and is then interrupted by Olivia saying "Where I came from? We both know who your father is. I came from a palace compared to the man who raised you. At least my father loved me."