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As for the possibility that The Kid is mistaken about when he lost the knife, that's beyond the realm of speculation. He made a specific statement and we're given no reason to doubt it, except that it implicates him and we know he's intended to be falsely accused."

1) The burden of proof is 100% on the prosecution, not the defense. The defense could theoretically sit there playing games on its iPad for the entirety of the trial but if the prosecution *fails to meet the requirements of the burden of proof* you acquit. That is, in principle, how it is supposed to work.

1) The burden of proof is 100% on the prosecution, not the defense. The defense could theoretically sit there playing games on its iPad for the entirety of the trial but if the prosecution *fails to meet the requirements of the burden of proof* you acquit. That is, in principle, how it is supposed to work.

I respect your confident assertion, although I must remind you that your personal experience with being asked to recall details of the day when you were arrested, taken to prison and threatened with being executed for the crime of murdering your own father may not be exactly the same as everyone else's.

I respect your confident assertion, although I must remind you that your personal experience with being asked to recall details of the day when you were arrested, taken to prison and threatened with being executed for the crime of murdering your own father may not be exactly the same as everyone else's.

"Maybe she was dreaming" isn't an attempt at hyperbole like "Maybe everyone's a robot and we're all in the Matrix". It's literally a splash of doubt on any story that relies on "I suddenly woke up and saw it through my window". "I suddenly woke up and saw it through my window" is a fundamentally untrustworthy…

"Maybe she was dreaming" isn't an attempt at hyperbole like "Maybe everyone's a robot and we're all in the Matrix". It's literally a splash of doubt on any story that relies on "I suddenly woke up and saw it through my window". "I suddenly woke up and saw it through my window" is a fundamentally untrustworthy…

tl;dr — I'm flabbergasted, still, that you don't get the obvious, monstrous logical contradiction in saying we have to take the kid at his word that he lost the knife at a specific place and time — he can't possibly be mistaken or confused or we're not taking the movie on its own terms — therefore he must've been…

tl;dr — I'm flabbergasted, still, that you don't get the obvious, monstrous logical contradiction in saying we have to take the kid at his word that he lost the knife at a specific place and time — he can't possibly be mistaken or confused or we're not taking the movie on its own terms — therefore he must've been…

Yeah, people get weird about probability sometimes and render themselves open to being manipulated as a result.

Yeah, people get weird about probability sometimes and render themselves open to being manipulated as a result.

This is not a "billion-to-one" chance. The fact that the knife is a common brand and commonly used itself ratchets it down quite a long way from that hyperbolic "billion-to-one" probability. The question really is "What are the chances the kid would lose a knife — the same kind that everyone has — on the same day that…

This is not a "billion-to-one" chance. The fact that the knife is a common brand and commonly used itself ratchets it down quite a long way from that hyperbolic "billion-to-one" probability. The question really is "What are the chances the kid would lose a knife — the same kind that everyone has — on the same day that…

This is such a stupid thing to get bogged down in but @avclub-85d8ce590ad8981ca2c8286f79f59954:disqus you're really reaching to make a kind of dumb point.

This is such a stupid thing to get bogged down in but @avclub-85d8ce590ad8981ca2c8286f79f59954:disqus you're really reaching to make a kind of dumb point.

Posted in wrong place, sorry

Posted in wrong place, sorry

It takes no special knowledge to know that the kind of eyewitness evidence the lady gave is really weak. I can know that just from what I know about, like, seeing things.

It takes no special knowledge to know that the kind of eyewitness evidence the lady gave is really weak. I can know that just from what I know about, like, seeing things.

You remember incorrectly (if I remember correctly, anyway) — they don't ever decide the kid is obviously innocent, and Fonda repeatedly makes a point that he's just talking about what's "possible".