Someone in the thread mentioned how one of the show runners, when in grade school, either knew or knew of a guy with the name Major Lillywhite.

Both of these shows ended where they should have. They both had a message and story to tell and cutting out the final season would be like cutting out the last chapter of a book.

Both of these shows ended where they should have. They both had a message and story to tell and cutting out the final season would be like cutting out the last chapter of a book.

Yeah how the hell did Blaine end up with remarkable hair and Liv looks like a total mess? Her hair before her transformation was really nice, what happened?

Riley? From Buffy? .. Had fans?

Ultimately the decision was to leave Major to continue being alone and isolated rather than bringing him into a family where he can be welcomed and understood.

He sees zombies as villains because Liv never gave him a reason not to. She had every opportunity to tell Major but didn't because of how it would have affected her and her potential for a relationship with him. She didn't per se have to tell him about her own personal condition but she could have and still broken…

Liv is incredibly selfish but that is what makes her a great character. I wouldn't call her incompetent just unmotivated — she clearly has what it takes to kill zombies in a straight up fight and also take a life in cold blood (though this was something she needed to develop over time).

The gender roles are not only inverted but the story itself is subverted. The typical story WOULD have ended with the girl getting with the guy because "just being with me [the guy] is enough." Major was like .. uh no it isn't .. and he's right.

They mentioned a government regulator in the finale being unconcerned with their product, was it the FDA? It may be slightly unbelievable but keep in mind that the FDA doesn't regulate every consumable product — alcohol is famously unregulated. That bottle of Jack Daniels Egg Nog could have zebra cum in it and you'd…

Arrow is unapologetically comic booky and that includes the parts of the show that are stretching the seams. I like how it does what it needs to do for the drama and the setting allows for them to (mostly) get away with it.

Her character is absolutely selfish. Many of her decisions can be understood but many others can't except through a lens of her thinking that she knows better than other people and gets to decide for them. Okay she doesn't have to tell Major about her own personal condition but she couldn't even tell him that…

As is discussed in length downthread the two major factors in limiting a person from such an assault are two things; unfamiliarity with the weapons and hesitation. We see Major at the firing range so we know he is familiar with the weapons. We know that Major doesn't consider the zombies to be human and has a need…

It's certainly best to leave it to the imagination; we can assume that whatever they did was at least safe enough since they both made it out okay :)

Absolutely true that it's (almost always) the most talented work that survives and cheap art is (almost always) forgotten but in the absence of time to see how this episode has been treated all we can do is look at historical comparisons. The show has been setting this situation up since at least the beginning of the…

…sounds a lot like ALIAS!

At least you didn't confuse it with Unobtanium :)

One man's nightmare is another man's dream. You say torture device, I say sex chair, let's call the whole thing off!

If Supernatural had ended with season 5 it would have been fine. Considering who the ultimate enemy was, introducing angels feels very natural.

I suppose you're about to find out.