You really owe it to yourself to go back to Season 1 of New Who, with Eccleston as Nine, and watch from the beginning. It's really fantastic.

That is the strand of hope I'm clinging to. That Eight couldn't deal with pulling the trigger on the time lock and hid and aged and that's John Hurt. Because "sekrit Doktah no one knew about!1!!!!11" is so fucking stupid it makes my head spin.

"And, it has been hinted at ever since New Who began that the Doctor did something terrible in the Time War that has haunted him since. "

No — What he said to her instead of his name at the wedding was "Look into my eye." Because it was Teselecta!Doctor, remember?

What an empty and meaningless finale.

I could NOT with all the Poe. "OF COURSE! NEVERMORE! WHERE ARE THE GPSES AND THE SATELLITES?!?!" That was the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. A shame, what with the genuinely horrifying and awesome reveal of What's Her Face Victim Who Survived's body (sorry WHFVWS, they said your name a bunch but it all sounded…

I dig it, and I remember all of that about Cortexiphan, but I think the way it was shot — lingering on Michael calling back to the "shhh" finger from a few scenes earlier, an ambiguous gesture to begin with — makes it a lot more ambiguous than it could have/should have been. It left me first convinced that it was…

The part about the Observers makes sense to me, but not the part about Peter. We're still in Amber Credits Universe when the Observers invade, meaning both Peters have died and our Peter got willed back into existence by love. Peter's existence in the ending Fringe universe is not contingent upon the Observers at all.…

Nope. The future that Walter and Michael reset is the future created by the event of the invasion. They are sent forward in time to show that 21st century earth SHOULD NOT be invaded — they tell this to the earlier version of The Observers (the ones who invaded are a later, further evolved and emotionless version from…

I posted a separate comment about this but I'm pretty sure the way the Plan works is that Walter and Michael intercept the evolving Observers at the end of the original Scientific Expedition, which was a study and not a way of planning an invasion, thus resetting the future of the Observers, preventing them from the…

Ok, but then why Shhh finger from Michael?

OK, I have a genuine question for my fellow viewers, a technical question, because as I see it presented in reviews it is not what I understood to be happening on screen.

I live in Chicago, there is ample delivery Mexican/Latin American/NOM NOM NOM here too.

I mean, you don't have to go along with anything, but they made it pretty clear that the Scientific Expedition was well before the invasion plans, a precursor to what happened before they reset the timeline.

IT MEANS THAT WALTER SENT IT FROM THE FUTURE. OH THAT IS FUCKING PERFECT.

Last little bit to allow for the letter: The evil Observers referred earlier into the finale to having some ability to accomodate paradoxes (I mean, they'd have to to even come back and invade the past to save their future selves). I would posit, then, that the ability they have to stabilize/correct/sustain some level…

I thought it was almost Cabin In The Woods-y. It was both so dramatic and a little bit of levity that was desperately needed. This finale really was a masterpiece.

Since I see it in a bunch of different places, I'm just gonna put it here instead of being weird reply-to-everyone girl.

On point 1: I think I figured it out. I think the moment the wormhole leads back to is a moment coinciding with the end of the original scientific expedition (or some part of it). The information provided by Walter and Michael, coupled with what I assume would be the admission that the original team was developing…

That is brilliant. Just the thought made me drool. Oh pleeeease TPTB. (this is hope against hope.)