Yeah, I think the anger was with how insulting the offer was. Probst took it like someone offering their backup tight end for your starting RB in fantasy football.

Wrong. Drew is the model. Alec is not.

It's pretty crazy that John Rocker is more identifiable than Jeff Kent was. I'm guessing it's due to size. He's so noticeable that you start to think about where you've seen him. Whereas Jeff Kent just looks like a guy.

Big players like Nadiya and Val?

Him finding the idol is the big key. Her having two idols is within the realm of possibility just because of Exile Island (it'd be very small odds, but within the realm of possibility all the same). But as soon as he found the idol, he had to know that the odds had shrunk to zero, and that she not only did not have…

Agreed. The argument for Baylor ends at "she accepted being the bait for Val's potential idol". Write off.

Maybe this is why Kim Spradlin did RHAP so early in the season?

Dolly in Vanuatu is another example. If you can possibly remember her. And Jesus Matt from Redemption Island.

As advertised on that show, we spend the summer recording shows where we discuss every past season with various AV Clubbers, as preparation of the ultimate, definitive ranking of all 28 seasons of Survivor, to be posted soon.

Well, here's another argument that shows that I'm not biased: had Ciera NOT voted for her mother, even though she had clearly signed off on the plan and was given full permission by her alliance to opt out of the vote, I would have said she gets no points.

Yeah. As you say, challenge wins don't necessarily equal athleticism. And if you're going to count those (which you shouldn't), then you need to count Ozzy's RI duels.

I say this as someone who is definitely not a fan, but Ozzy is hands down the most athletic person to ever be on Survivor, and it's not close. I can't stand the guy, don't think he's good at the actual game of Survivor, but his athleticism is astounding. And probably the reason why he doesn't get along with people…

Agreed. No points for Josh. We get into a danger zone if we try to anticipate intentions. Vote splits are one thing, those are clearly laid out strategies by alliances to vote for two people. Josh basically opted out of voting for the eliminated person. Thus, no points. (Just as Coach would not have gotten points for…

Pedantry! Moar pedantry!

He's no Palau Ian, I'll grant you that.

I knew Nadiya was the goner when they kept going back to her for The Amazing Race comments. It was clear that they had to use them all know before they expired.

Wait until you see his blue steel. Then you'll know.

Being on the wrong end of this vote was not helpful for her. If the current division holds, she could be an easy next vote. Although, Val might be a more likely target.

Her gut has shit for brains.

Fiji is much better than it gets credit for. It might be the best bad season. /end rant