Well, consider too, that they came into the conversation very, very late. Surfer Rosa, which didn't have a huge impact, came out in 88, and Dolittle didn't arrive until '89—they were really a '90s phenomenon. And more so in retrospect than then.

I think you missed the point. It wasn't an external analysis of a scene, it was internal recollection by the people who were there. Scholarly thoroughness, thankfully, never factored into it—I'd much rather read the Stooges recalling how they drove a van into an overpass than learn which pickups Ashton used in his…

Whether we realized it or not, I think part of GnR's appeal was that they had much more in common with The Heartbreakers and Dead Boys than with, say, Cinderella.

Which brings up another point—why no Homestead Records? So many bands from this scene were on that label.

And don't want to be a troll, but I'm sorry, the Pixies were OK. They were all right. They were worth a listen. They were fun. They were nice.

Wow, this is the wrongest wrong thing that's ever been wrong.

Yeah, I think success tortured Kurt Cobain; paradoxically, success meant that you were a failure.

That was always a match made in hell. I read an interview with J in… Spin, I think, back in the early '90s. He said that they'd play a gig, get in the van, and neither would say a word for the entire drive, even if it was for hours. Sounds awesome.

Yeah, you really have to wonder if something went wrong there.

Well, to some degree, Bad Brains straddled ALL the lines.

And an accountant, no less.

I don't know how old you are, but if you were a part of the scene described in the book, the answer to your question is simple: The two scenes had nothing to do with each other, and particularly in the case of the hardcore scene, were quite antagonistic toward each other.

Wow, this is an epic disection of this band. I might have to revisit them. I own Slip and I listened to it fairly often back in the day, but I never really came away with them being much more than a pleasant but diluted version of Helmet. Maybe a bit of distance will reveal some things I missed.

Bingo. This. That ex-boyfriend was BEYOND sketchy. His story, alibi, reason for being there, demeanor—everything about that guy was wrong.

I think this episode was a bit better than the reviewer is giving it credit for. I work in Silicon Valley and I live and breathe this world all day, and this episode does a pretty remarkable job of pointing out the frantic, pointless wormhole much of this is.

Two words: Sex Dwarf. https://www.youtube.com/wat…

But NINE houses wanted her. None of them would pick her up, when they choose, what, 10-15 girls? Seems VERY unlikely.

It did, and I was hoping for a VERY special episode. Alas…

Time and place. State school in the South in the '80s? God help you if you weren't Greek. Thank god for punk rock, skateboards, and Old Milwaukee.

Although the world in which Lexie is not rabidly accepted by every sorority does not exist.