I think you're giving Jaguar wife a bit too much credit.

The thing here is that Ted and Don pretty much realized that BOTH their ships were definitely taking on water; they probably realize the risk BUT figure it's better to go down swinging than slowly drown.

The thing about Pete is that when he get all righteously indignant, he's almost always on the correct side of the argument.

Hey, if short fiction was good enough for Poe and Lovecraft, well, that should make it good enough for anyone.

I don't know that I'd say a MILLION times, but I definitely thought Horns was a better, tighter story.

3000 times zero is still zero, dude.

I think he still hates the song, but he sounds like he kinda came around to "ya know, I'd like to hang with Lou Bega."

It sounds to me like he's kinda putting together an ill-formed hypothesis on the fly - "I dislike Mambo No. 5 because it degrades a great original song" - and he seems to kinda come around to "I don't hate Lou Bega though."

…but his wallet was in the meth-heads truck.

Problem with this view being that while I agree Southland is fucking excellent, AMC's prestige program Mad Men brings in better ratings AND hauls in awards by the sackful.

Chickie completely disappearing is probably the one major complaint I have about the show during its run - she was definitely a terrific, interesting and unique character, and I hate that she hasn't popped up at least occasionally during the subsequent seasons.

I dunno. Walking in, when Coop asks "wanna ruin this guy's day?" and Henry chuckles and says "yeah"….it's one of those wonderful "what if" kinda sequences - maybe one or the other DOES ask for a transfer the next day (obviously Henry, because I can see Cooper having a "fuck you, YOU quit" attitude about it), maybe…

Yeah, when the exterior showed them walking out of a bar name "The Frolic Room" I was thinking "well, what kind of bar did Henry THINK it would be with that name?"

At the risk of sounding like a Devil's Advocate, the fact that pretty much NONE of the characters on the show has it totally together probably minimizes the fact that they occasionally stumble with a female characterization.

What's frustrating about that, is that not only are the actors on Southland generally excellent, the publicity from winning awards might actually help the show stay on the air.

That's a reasonable response; of course, that response is also due to us seeing the crime committed on television, where the camera is (theoretically) a disinterested and discompassionate observer.

I know that part of my interest is that I generally do LIKE the main characters, and wonder if they make it through to glasnost alive, and what happens then.

FWIW, Southland is fucking great.

AND it had titties, the veritable cherry on top of the gravy.

Personally, I think a show starting out "solid" isn't a bad place to begin; I've watched some shows that really hit the ground running, but usually the first season is sort of figuring out what they have as far as the cast goes, and figuring out what works.