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I thought what I said was pretty clear but I guess not. It wasn't a case of "anybody who kills the crown prince gets to be king next"; if Rhaeger's heirs had still been around then Robert would've had no claim. But as none of them were, it was possible for Robert to argue that he was the heir since he was in fact the

I'm sorry, but talking as if people couldn't actually be fans of Guillermo del Toro because they saw his movies and liked them, but instead are only impressed by his "good reputation," is just ordinary troll material. We expect our Supertrolls to take it to the next level somehow. Like maybe throw in some totally

@avclub-0840875a9da6f24c4e0fc883b399d93a:disqus Yeah, me too— I think it's because even though we haven't seen her do anything at all yet, she stands out just enough that we're kind of primed to see her as another potential cool female warrior character, and then she just immediately gets axed. (In the stomach— ugh.)

I'm not sure what the putative shittiness of the last generation of Targaryens has to do with Jon. I mean, he wouldn't be the first hero whose father was a putz, and there have been plenty of shitty Targaryens in past generations too; Aerys wasn't the only disastrous king, just the most homicidal one.

@avclub-e090dc0d50bec3a36eb5d6371fd6030e:disqus True, but the healed-up Beric still looks relatively lively. In the book, he's not just covered with scars, he looks like he hasn't eaten or slept for a few months; he's a little more mentally vague too (I was sorry they cut the line about how he can't remember what his

Yeah, Gwendoline Christie has modeled nude before and she definitely has some nice curves; even though she's mentioned training a lot for the show, I doubt she looks nearly as athletic and weatherbeaten as Brienne is supposed to be. So it'd be hard to go full frontal without having the scene suddenly be all about

You heard the man— bugger him with a spear.

I think it's also just that Jaime was a young guy back then who didn't really give a shit about anything, and didn't like anyone except his sister. Being a cynical asshole was his thing. Having suddenly done something that might be seen as heroic would be confusing to him, and having to tell people "Please don't hate

@avclub-ef062084a1c4a3584af1d4f8e514ea50:disqus Just based on what's been shown on the show so far, the answer is "maybe."

I think you're overthinking it. People I know who are into the show and haven't read the books say it's sometimes confusing, but just generally cool and suspenseful, and they like that the scope of it is so huge. And for the people I know who are into the show and have read the books, like me, it's just like watching

@avclub-0840875a9da6f24c4e0fc883b399d93a:disqus But I'm not asking you to take anything I say on my authority; I'm just talking about things that have been mentioned on the show. Overthinker is the one who said "___ is true because it's on the wiki."

@avclub-8b135b8c01207be1e8f1a1fadd06897e:disqus Also, even if you're talking about Jeyne Westerling, that's not what "camp follower" means. She was a highborn girl who was at home with her family, and Robb happened to be staying there— after having laid siege to that home.

@avclub-ba56a1fd70b8c7aff17bf4c58e614b42:disqus Basically this. If Tywin had sat himself down on the throne, he would've immediately had to fight off the whole rest of the rebel army. He switched sides at the last minute, and his one accomplishment was to lay waste to the city after tricking Aerys into opening the

@avclub-da496e2db2e50a068b4ae5549d4ae1b0:disqus "Under the laws as they existed at the time, Robert's accession to the throne was as illegitimate as Joffrey's, if not more." How so? The Mad King was dead and his only heirs had fled the country. Robert was only distantly related to the Targaryens, but he was still

But Robb doesn't do it "without thought to the consequences." He decided that what he had to do was important even if those were the consequences.

@avclub-ef062084a1c4a3584af1d4f8e514ea50:disqus You're talking about two different people. Lord Bolton has not been seen in any scenes involving Theon. Lord Bolton is the middle-aged guy with close-cropped hair who's one of Robb's main men; his main actions so far have been politely questioning Robb's decisions

It may well be Olyvar, but it's not as if every first name is only used by one person ever.

People in Salem thought that witches got shit done, but that didn't convince them that witchcraft was the true faith. Most people don't choose their religion based on whether their priests can do cool shit.

The GOT Wiki is a fan thing, it's not canon.

@nowlo:disqus Just to be totally nerdy about it… you're correct in terms of the books, but as @spinycreature:disqus said they've tweaked the rules a bit for the show— possibly to avoid having to bring up Targaryen history to explain why the rules for the royal succession are different and more male-biased, as you