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No. Inclusive is "everyone" or "all women and all men." She was the one who made it exclusive.

When the awkward phrasing ties directly into longstanding issues people have with mainstream feminism, it's going to provoke a response. Not Arquette's fault, but she could have easily put a lid on this by apologizing for implying that people of color and LGBT people should get in line.

Man, that's a great look. "I support the rights of gay people and black people, but only so long as they stroke my ego and acknowledge that I'm one of the good ones." I can tell that your egalitarianism is really a deeply-held, well thought-out position.

I sincerely think that both the right thing to do and the quickest way to head off the controversy is for the person who has unintentionally offended or excluded to sincerely apologize and pledge to do better in the future. If you're a person who truly cares about the rights of LGBT and people of color, that should be

Her statement implies that "LGBT people" are not women—that they are outsiders who need to help women achieve women's goals. I am sure she didn't mean that, but a) it's the most straightforward way to read the text of her remarks, and b) this is an actual, sincerely-held attitude that really does shape the agenda of

I don't think anyone—or hardly anyone—would be criticizing her if she had left it at what she'd said on the stage, or if she had used her backstage interview to call on all women and all men who love women (or just all men) to attack the gender gap in wages. But instead she separated out LGBT people and people of

Maybe this will teach people who are affluent and white that there are poor people and people of color, who don't appreciate being overlooked or subsumed?

Okay, well, there are divisions quite specific to this issue, even if Arquette may not have recognized them. For example: black men make 75 cents for every dollar that white men make. Hispanic men make 67 cents. White women? 81 cents.

Right there with you, friend.

"Heart in the right place" is an easy assumption for straight white people to extend to her, because they haven't experienced their concerns being essentially ignored or demoted within a movement that claims to represent the concerns of all women.

Certainly. Doesn't mean that it doesn't come with offsetting benefits to white women, whose expressed concerns about their personal safety may motivate others to undertake violence, state or private, on their behalves.

I think you're not very good at following arguments. You said I was "creat[ing] divisions where there aren't any." I challenged that with an example of pre-existing divisions that were certainly not created by "SJWs" in February 2015. Your response is apparently to not understand that someone can challenge a faulty

Look, I'm sure if someone had asked her, "By 'all the women in America,' do you mean, for example, black women, trans women, Latina women, and bisexual women?", Arquette would have said "Of course I do." (And hopefully, "And I'm sorry if my phrasing implied otherwise.")

Basically, no one gets a pass.

You said I was (and by extension, others who criticize Arquette's comments are) "creat[ing] divisions where there aren't any." I am challenging your premise that there are not deep and real divisions between the interests of affluent straight white women and the interests of poor people (including poor women), people

No, I did not. Arquette is the one who placed "people of color" in a separate category from "women." That's one of the main bases for the critique of her backstage comments.

"Go ahead and create divisions where there aren't any and see how far that gets you."

Okay, except black and Latino men make less than white women. So it's hard to say why it's now time for men of color (if that's what she meant) to rise up and help white women make more.

It's deeper than buzzwords like "exclusionary" would suggest. The issue is that, by and large, white women have not fought for the rights of people of color, and that the pay gap affects women of color to a much greater extent than it affects white women. In that context, demanding that people of color fight for the

You can't really accuse a person of "LGBT inequality." That's more of a societal/institutional trait.