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to counter Nah:

I will look into that—I used to use Johnny Cash's 'Cocaine Blues' as the why pick on Hip Hop? counterexample. There's a whole genre of Murder Ballads for Chrissakes.

kjohnson1585 is on a different computer atm

But Chopin, I'm not talking about 'Seinfeld' the show—which is an entirely different discussion—I'm talking about 'Seinfeld' the phenomenon which is absolutely about the way it was watched and discussed. Consider that, since I didn't watch it with everyone else, my experience of the show is exactly as you describe

I just watched it for the first time last week and my problem is with its depiction of a typical married couple. Not that there aren't couples like that one out there, but consider the "reality" of this:

Not just hits—was he supposed to be good in anything? I had the same thought. It's like he showed up around the same time as guys like Jude Law but I know Jude Law's been in stuff I liked. Colin Farrell's only been in stuff I thought I might have liked but ended up not liking (though I don't remember it always being

This could be good—now do 'Looker'
'Total Recall' was always better in theory than in practice. The effects were really good in some places and really crappy in others but the sets, especially once they got to Mars were like they were from the original Star Trek series. So nowhere to go but up in that respect.

I'm talking about a multistate (even picaresque) crime spree committed by a couple who become famous and come to be seen as folk heroes. I know the film is really taking more of a cue from the Starkweather spree, but those two were never seen as celebrities or heroes anti or otherwise—where Bonnie and Clyde really

I've been there, Deb—I didn't own a TV for the duration of the 9o's (much of that before I had a computer even) and I was no less well-informed then than I am now. There's also this phenomenon that occurs where going for long intervals without having a TV makes television and especially commercials and product

Dogstyle—I was trying to be clear that I think it could be done (and I would love to see it done—that ambition is what made 'Watchmen' so incredible) but that it hasn't been done yet. I also was trying not to come off as an elitist who dismissed comics out of hand—I'm really reacting more to the unconditional worship

Better than Bugs is Daffy. Bugs is kind of an all American bad boy, but Daffy's got demons he ain't dealt with yet.

If you're gonna get biblical—what about Judas? That guy made the whole Christian religion possible and did so at Jesus' request, yet Christians all hate him for it. That's just not fair.

I just rewatched 'Nightmare on Elm Street' and the cult of Freddie makes him kind of an antihero. But I don't think of the Firefly clan that way—I think 'Natural Born Killers' examines the way the media makes antiheroes out of criminals, but it speaks to a kind of crime spree that seems more at home in the 30's of

If you believe Kamau Brathwaite, Caliban is an antihero for using the language of his enslaver to curse him.

I was going to post something about Noir and the American antihero. I think that's really where the type gets established, at least filmwise. And so the hardboiled detective fiction of Hammet and Chandler have to rate discussion—I think the initial description of Sam Spade is that he has the eyebrows of Satan.

YA YA Whoa whoa YA YA!

See also: what I just put up about the Gangsta myth in the Black community after someone mentioned Stringer Bell. Biggie and them are just contemporary iterations of Staggolee.

I suspect this is going to cause a shitstorm so I'm going to preface it with a bit of a disclaimer—I have not been a fan of the DC comics stable generally since I was a preschooler and watched the 'The Superfriends' and the old 'Batman' Tv show, mostly because Marvel very quickly established itself in my imagination

I'm not sure what's in the discussion
Because I'm not able to stop and hear it at work—But I would like to throw in here an attempt to start the conversation that I couldn't after the 'X-Files' piece (since that thread became something of another Festivus) and that is about how television used to be a phenomenon of

My point was not to start this up again (and I am fighting the urge to make my case about 'Seinfeld' again—which I assure you is based on sound if not unassailable critical reasoning—but since you can find it in multiple places easily enough I'm not going to do that), I was trying to start a new conversation about