The embarrassing part about screamo is that there are tons of popular (and mostly bad) bands from the 00s (Hawthorne Heights, Pierce the Veil, The Devil Wears Prada, Silverstein, Chiodos, Atreyu, even obvious radio-rock bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet for my Valentine, etc.) that somehow got labeled screamo and…

I'd consider Brand New pop-punk with a significant emo/hardcore influence. They don't have many screamo elements at all but they're definitely in the conversation as part of that whole scene, and for being one of the most important bands of the last decade or so.

Tbh I've never listened to The Blood Brothers (I know, sorry), but on a side note, Punch is really good.

None of those bands are really screamo at all, but Chiodos' last album was actually pretty good. I'm not happy that they're back with Craig Owens (his replacement was miles better as a vocalist and a lyricist), but I'll listen to their next album in hopes that it's just good Doppleganger-era TFOT guitar playing from…

I've always seen them labeled as post-hardcore and I think that label fits them more, but they're a lot closer to screamo than a lot of the bands they got lumped in with (the mid-late 00s Warped Tour crowd) and who got called screamo. And a lot better.

Nah. They're definitely post-hardcore, but not really screamo at all. They are good, though.

Yeah, I generally just think of the stuff referred to as "skramz" as screamo that's more on the hardcore/emo side, with less/none of the metal(core) or post-rock elements.

The thing about bands like Atreyu and Hawthorne Heights is, they took the name and some (very few) concepts from screamo, but they don't really fit the genre at all (and they're the reason people hate "screamo," even when they've never heard of CTTS or City of Caterpillar or Orchid or pg. 99). They're basically slick…

If you've never heard any of these bands, you haven't listened to a lot of screamo over the years.

I'm not saying that all metalcore bands are good. I'm saying that TDWP isn't remotely metalcore. They have little to no elements of metalcore. Just like Of Mice & Men or Pierce the Veil aren't post-hardcore. Also, metalcore and metal are totally different things. You could call it metalcore without pretending it's…

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Definitely. Watched it for the first time the other day, and damn, that movie is a lot to take in.

I've seen The Strangers once, thought most of it was stupid and did not care for it (though I did like the masks). Will I still maybe like this? It looks good and it has better masks.

Not to mention new stuff from Brave Bird (best emo album this year imo), Their/They're/There, Mountains for Clouds and Crash of Rhinos. Though those may not all fit squarely into "old school emo" (but they're definitely emo). Lots of people liked the new Pity Sex album too but I wasn't huge on it.

Yeah, mbv was all hype. I loved it the first few times I listened to it, but when I came back to it a couple of months later I realized it was just okay.

1. Deafheaven - Sunbather

Purity Ring should definitely win. Shrines was last year's best album by a long way.

My first thought watching this was that was that the people who made it wanted to make Wet Hot American Summer but thought WHAS was a serious film.

I mean, I like his music. But a lot of the reason I like it is because it's Donald Glover.

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