He'd already dropped thew news of the apartment and she misunderstood it. I'd say that would be more like her holding out her cup thinking he'd made some and him informing her that there was no coffee.

But she gets to make her case for that all the time. There's plenty of eps showing her being sad and put upon and in the right.

@avclub-ca8e4b363f85fdb30c00a0ad943cf6f4:disqus People usually point to the kids as being the reason she won't support him, but I don't think that's a factor. The way it's played out seems to just be straight up double standard. Jim supported her, but what she did was only temporary and she hoped this would be too. So…

@avclub-904052627982d821c4e1221ff8951372:disqus Did those reasons have anything to do with the show or were they just about why a person in the real world wouldn't want to move? Because it seems like the show's made it pretty clear that Pam's reasons for not wanting to move are all Pam character reasons about not…

Yes, I think it's Levin's second proposal to Kitty? It's been years and years and I barely remember it at all but did a search when you said that. He spells out maybe the first letters of her original rejection and she guesses it before he gets to the end?

@avclub-61938d93498e7f0ed5e6527b1cee656a:disqus Right, he could do that and it would work for a while, but I don't think he'd really consider it a stable thing or something he'd want to rely on.

That must be why we're so nostalgic for it now and how we were a little sad when it ended. And why it's always talked about using romantic relationship metaphors!

No, she really was a spy. The people who work at the embassy are KGB. She's not doing the kind of work as Philip and Elizabeth, but she was a lower level of someone like Vasili, involved in intelligence. Martha would never go out on a stake out with the FBI but Nina was always on a track where she could go and meet…

Nah, there were plenty of kids who were into music that old at the time.

It's like Paige said—either she's into him or she's not. He doesn't want to spend the rest of his life fighting to get her interest. He can accept if she doesn't really want him and move on.

I think Philip would be too smart for that. He seems too in tune to people to think that strongarming anyone into betraying their country will work for long—as we saw in this ep.

Yeah, I think there were a few things playing into it—another one maybe being that she's not in on Directorate-S. I liked that aspect.

I think a show where the central conflict was between American kids and secretly KGB parents would get old really quickly. The parents aren't allowed to express Soviet values so much and the kids are kids. It's not even clear if Philip is that into ideology.

I was impressed at how efficiently they set up the Philip/Elizabeth conflict in the Paige/Elizabeth scene. Elizabeth admits that what she thought she saw in Philip really was there. Paige, who possibly might as well be speaking for Philip, says she's not interested in fighting for Matthew—either he's into her or he…

Pete didn't misrepresent Joan. He told Roger and Bert that he (Pete) thought she'd be amenable to the right offer. When Roger asked if he was saying if Joan said yet, Pete cut his eyes sideways (knowingly) and said, "She said we couldn't afford it."

I agree that's what her look to Don meant. But that doesn't mean Joan thought she was going to be fired if she didn't say yes. It just meant she wished she'd known there was one partner who thought Jaguar wasn't worth the offer. Her decision was to make a good deal for the partnership, not to sleep with somebody to…

Ken knew and Jaguar guy knew and Joan got a partnership right after they got it.

I don't see how Joan could have leveraged a gross offer into a partnership and also be be a Fantine-type innocent who not only slept with a guy because she was forced to do so to keep her job, but was apparently comically clueless that she wasn't even being forced. She told Pete no without any problem. When Lane said…

I disagree that's what Don's meeting meant to her. I think she was happy to know that someone cared enough to want to throw the account rather than ask her, but that doesn't translate into her doing it because she thinks it's expected of her. She drove a hard bargain for what she did. She couldn't have done that if…

If Harry wants to be a partner there's no reason for him to project his anger onto Joan. He sees her as being a petty dictator just for posing for partner pictures. It's not like she took his spot as a partner, she just happened to also be a partner and got there in her own way.