But also - crucially - their relationships are all so warm up until that point. I remember things like Richard & Emily telling the story of how they met, and Richard pointing out places of importance to him. Yes, it was all part of his plan to excite Rory about Yale, but it was also genuine happiness on his behalf.

I made the mistake of reading the TWOP recaps of each episode back when I first watched all of GG. (I blame the AV Club for not having done this show yet back then.) And I know they HATED him and his episodes, which came as a surprise to me because I always liked them. For one, I feel he got Sookie's character better…

He wasn't always that canny, of course… It's no 'old man complains about rock music', but this article is hilarious:

Good point. It's just a relief that he doesn't sound like Speedy Gonzales or whatever.

After watching the show through over a few months, go back to the beginning. Obviously Rory & even Lorelai look much younger, but I was amazed at how much younger the older Gilmores looked…

And you've got to remember that for the entirety of her life to date, Rory has been hearing exaggeratedly awful things about them from her mother. Until she gets to know them better - over the course of this season, basically - Rory has that deeply ingrained way of framing them. Everything she learns about Emily &…

I'd seen an episode or two when it aired - the only one I have any memories of is the big Yale football match one, where Richard & Emily get massively into it - but I didn't really know the show until I was unemployed for about a year in 2009. My local library had an impressively huge collection of dvds, so I spent…

As much as we all - myself last week included - praise to the skies all the Lorelai-Emily scenes & that complex relationship, the one between Lorelai & her father is just as important in a way. Sure, it was always less volatile than her and Emily (and Edward Hermann isn't in anywhere near as many episodes as Kelly…

Great points. Also note, backstory-wise, that one further reason Lorelai stayed away/kept Rory away from her grandparents was that Richard & Emily had been an all-purpose warning/horror she could use. She didn't want Rory to know them well and realise that maybe they weren't always quite so bad as she (Lorelai) made…

She treated him worse than anyone else, really, didn't she?

I think this was the thing that ruined the Max storyline for me a little when I started watching this show. I knew there was seven seasons, so I also knew that the Perfect Guy in season one wasn't going to be around for long. This is true for Lorelai's other relationships to an extent, but none as much as with Max.

I only recently saw Ambersons for the first time, and for a film that's been treated as badly as it was, I was still really surprised at how great it is. The mind boggles to think what it could've been if Welles had had his way.

@avclub-654994917d3301946da8540d7d560004:disqus  'Co-Pilot' has some of the worst dialogue in the whole run of the series. The bit I'll always remember is a conversation between Vic & Shane after they do whatever it is they did: "Well, that was easy", "Yeah, almost too easy". Without any irony or anything - 'subtly'…

I actually liked to think that he genuinely was heterosexual, because that's a clever subverting of stereotypes, whereas if he was actually gay, it was all a bit over the top.

It's not just you. Your post expresses exactly how I feel.

As I've heard it, it wasn't outright hatred or anything. Just that Scott Patterson in real life is as grumpy & anti-social as early-years Luke. And Lauren Graham, um, I believe isn't. I think it was mostly just that they were really different people thrown together all the time as opposed to genuine antagonism.

Digger is the reason why the fifth season is my least favourite. I just never bought their relationship, and it was pretty much the centre of that year. (I know objectively that the two that followed are worse, really.)

Not just that - the two actors just knocked it out of the park EVERY SINGLE TIME. Good as they both were with everyone else, when together it was always incredible.

She never really lost her massive slouchiness, though. (Sorry if that distracts anyone. Since someone pointed out to me, it's impossible not to see.)

I preferred the book.