TV Roundtable: Michael J. Fox was Alex P. Keaton!

"Yeah, we always had vice principals. They were usually the rules enforcers" - when you put it like that, it sounds quite epic.

Bug fuck? Aw, now I miss "Holy Motors"!

Poor Shyamalan, now Smith has ruined his so respectful career…

Don't get the knock on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. It was really great for what it's trying to accomplish. It's far from being the most questionable entry above The Wire (coff*M*A*S*H*coff).

You think tv shows exist on a bubble? The Simpsons started investing in dense comic mythology a bit before Seinfeld did. Yes, Seinfeld aired during the same time, and yes, Seinfeld has its own identity. Nobody is saying otherwise. But there had been an influence of Simpsons in pop culture in the time that was huge.
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Nah. Mad Men doesn't even deserve to be in the top 20.

@avclub-6997a8bd0e1042b70b60c5c879a1780e:disqus Not bad, but not good either. It doesn't really mean anything in regards to its quality. It just means that's the process in that show.

Actually, that just says Matthew Wiener is a control freak.

I think The Sopranos did that much better in every way possible though, and used it to expand it's thematic resonance and scope. Mad Men has just become more literal and redundant for me once it started to try to do that.

I'm sorry, I know americans love it, but M*A*S*H*? And I'd never, ever even consider that Mad Men is better or more influential than The Simpsons on it's prime. And yeah, The West Wing as well.

@avclub-22eda830d1051274a2581d6466c06e6c:disqus Seinfeld is actually one of my favorite shows, but even loyal fans have to agree the acclaim for it has taken a life of its own. I love the intricate structure of Seinfeld, but it's not as groundbreaking as The Simpsons and many other shows, comedy or not. It's one of my…

I knew there would be snark, but grading something twice is as silly as complaining about it, like I'm doing. It just gives me tons of notifications. I don't think it should a priority in the world, and I'm not gonna die because of it, but it's still silly.

You put Lena's show on this paper, because Todd would sure love to date ya, holla at ya when it's on HBO!

It does not say in this article, but on Deadline they explain it's the original writing team for season one.

Are you american? I feel All In The Family is a show that works much better with americans, because it speaks to a certain period in the country, dealing with important subjects and introducing big iconography that have become the norm for countless sitcoms.

Yeah, that was odd. I love Seinfeld and all, but the acclaim has gotten bigger than the show itself. It was great, and I love it, but that show actually owes a lot to The Simpsons in terms of how to do dense comedic mythology, and even then, the writing there never meets the sense of unpredictability and dynamism that…

I expect many of those shows to drop a lot in 10 years. I don't expect Game Of Thrones to keep its high placing in #40 for example. It's above many more influential classics. Same thing goes for Homeland in #49 (even if it's one of my personal favorites, I recognize it's way too high and way too soon to really judge…

I haven't really liked this season. I usually avoid commenting here, because unlike most, I actually think the past 3 seasons aren't as excellent as the first 3. And because, quite frankly, this season, while interesting through a thematic standpoint, is all over the place in execution. The merger is not my favorite…

Just one thing I'd thought I'd say: people do realize they don't need to grade both reviews of GOT, right? If you're a newbie, you should just grade the newbie review, and if you're an expert, you should just grade in the expert review. Actually, no, people don't, because every week I get tons of notifications for…