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I thought her development was that she isn't afraid of anything anymore and that she'll f*ck whoever for power until she can afford to kill them off (herself or let others do it). That's what she'd doing and yes, it isn't pretty, but it wasn't going to be. That game she's supposed to become a player in is dirty and

Actually, the noble wedding nights and especially king/heir to the throne wedding nights were very often done with official witnesses present. To ensure that consummation happened and to prevent non-consummation as a ground for divorce in the future.

I don't see why being raped should mean the end of everything for Sansa. She is strong, she's disillusioned and she went into that marriage with her eyes open. She braced herself to endure till the right moment according to plan.

How can she upturn tables without actually f*cking? That's the only way women can play the game in that world. Look at Maergery or Cersei - that's how they both are playing it. There's just no other way. She can kill Ramsey at some point but she can't just knife him here and now consequences be damned. Until that

I think if Stannis wins LF can use Sansa as a shield. She becomes Wardeness of the North and he, LF, later just marries her or something. If Boltons win he crushes them with Vale army and Cersei's decree making him the Warden of the North.

pretty much the same happened to Dany in season 1, didn't seem to ruin her character or arc at all.

Actually, LF's plan does make sense. Boltons and Stannis fight and he fights the winner and is appointed the Warden or the North in addition to all those titles he accumulated before.

She doesn't want to have sex with HtH any more than she wants to have sex with Ramsey. And still she agrees to have sex with Ramsey (and most likely with HtH in the books though it's not confirmed yet) because LF told her she must. It's rape and pimping both in the show and in the books. The only difference will be

His plan starts making sense now. Also I think it will be the point where the book and the show plots for him and Sansa will converge again.

But his affections are not normal ones. It's more like he's a pervert that's grooming his future plaything to be obedient and skillful to his liking. He's doing the same in the book - he's trying to marry her off and encouraging her to make her future husband her own through sex. Of course HtH isn't as awful as Ramsey

The way to deal with this problem is to notify viewer beforehand that there are disturbing scenes not to avoid having that kind of scenes altogether.

But her only way to influence things is through sex or her name. Or both. She has no other means to achieve anything. She's no killer, she's no political influence of her own, she has no money, no castle, no servants apart from those given to her by LF or Boltons. What she can do except for being Ramsey's wife with

He's with her in ep9 in filming photos.

Claiming parentage is ridiculous idea. He might as well kill her himself. And Tommen. And Cersei. And himself. It's a crime punishable by death and it'd definitely strip them from all the pretenses for the Iron Throne and Casterly Rock and any position in society.

Casterly Rock isn't his to offer. He's not in line to inherit it as he's in the King's Guard and can't marry and have a heir.

Not to mention that Jaime can't marry as he's in the King Guard.
And Casterly Rock isn't his to promise to anyone.

He's like 8 at the end of ADWD, I think it all will be over even before he hits puberty let alone becomes a real person.

But somewhat normal consummation of the marriage seems inevitable as it's going to take place in the next episode already.

Considering that Roose is pretty much the only one who can keep Ramsey somewhat in check killing him is completely against Sansa's interests.

I don't think we''re going to see the journey at all. Most likely Sam will be sent to Oldtown in one episode and already there next time we'll see him. If anything's important about this story it's definitely not fat pink mast part. I'm assuming Maester Conspiracy is somehow relevant to the bigger plot.