Well, given that everything that moves TO 8:00pm from another slot loses around 0.4 in the ratings, it's fair to say 8:00 is a good bit death-ier than the rest of them.

Well, burn it off at 8, then. MJF's getting a 1.2 at 9:30… a 9:30 1.2 is an 8:00 0.8, right? Well, if you let it pull a 0.8 for a few months, you'll have all the justification in the world for cancelling it.

We'd be getting a 1.6 in a real slot, and we all know it. Except NBC, which also "knows" that getting Jack from freaking Will and Grace to reprise his '90s gay-caricature character as a dad or something is COMEDY GOLD COMEDY GOLD COMEDY GOLD.

You know what? Community at 8:30, Parks and Rec at 9. We pull 1.3 against BBT… fuck you if you can't. Prop up MJF at 9:30 with a real show at 9:00 if you want. Throw him to the wolves and give Ron Funches and Undateable a real shot next to real shows. I don't care. But don't keep putting us in the death slot and…

8 0'fucking clock. You know, you'll never know what Community would do out of that death slot if you took Community out of that fucking death slot already.

I'm looking forward to watching this… these guys are great.

Or what the ratings said.

I'd be more concerned about the racist puppets, myself.

H.R. Pukenshette: Do you really think people were tuning in at 8:00 because The Office was on at 9:00 and they wanted to get an hour-long head start? This MAY be a (very small) factor for the show directly before a show, but certainly not for the show a whole hour before. The only really significant boost comes from…

I'm not saying this will work, but it didn't work for NBC, so why would it work for these guys?

As opposed to Marilyn Danson, who hasn't been relevant for years.

First thought: "who's Sean O'Malley, and what is HIS show?"

The Guided by Voices guy's wife?

Troy and Shirley?

Well, no, they DON'T "know the audience that Community can consistently get with no lead-in". Because they've never run Community outside the 8:00 time slot. (Except for the first three episodes, and possibly a couple flukes later, e.g. the time they ran the last three episodes of S3 on the same night.)

What it comes down to is, they're going to keep "New Girl." Even if they clear everything else out, they're going to need something to go with "New Girl."

Because Nielsen measures the number of airings that are actually profitable for the network?

If they pull comedy from the 8:00-9:00 hour, what do they air there? Does it do any better? And with literally only 1 new comedy on the lineup, how do they build for the future?

I think Community might even beat a 1.3, even at 8:00. It averaged a 1.3 last year, this year is going to be better than last year, and syndication should bump the ratings up a little too, just as it did for Parks last year.

So are a bunch of cable networks. The CW, "network" or no, is operating with a smaller budget and lower expectations to begin with.