I hope it didn't sound like I ever rooted for Peggy or thought she was in the right. Didn't even relate to her, really, except in that I've been frustrated and/or unhappy with things in my life before. Like most people, I imagine. Well, that and having been in disagreements before with people when they want what…

You could be right. Maybe I'm trying too hard not to believe that the whole thing is a sexist presentation of how men do all the important things and women who don't want to stay home and have kids are bad, crazy, and will come to a bad end.

But consider how they treated each other …

I know. She barely had any time at all to get some American food on the table for the new king!

Exactly. Why would Lou feel any differently? It doesn't mean that we have to 100% disregard Peggy's frustrations. We aren't Lou. If this show is anything at all, it is a presentation of a whole lot of different character's perspectives. We aren't supposed to come away identifying with only one.

But I think that's the true meaning of feminism. She shouldn't have to label herself as a feminist to be free to choose what she wants in life. I'm just not convinced it was her gender alone keeping her "down." I believe a guy could be just as frustrated with 1979 small town midwestern life. Ed just happened to…

Okay, I keep saying that I want a whole season for Hanzee. How about if we get to see the dark turning point and whatever leads up to it? The story behind what moves him from what he is today to a fatass lobster eating lazy crime boss?

That's what was so disturbing about that scene! As much as I'm grateful for clear resolution on her death, seeing that he left her just laying out there in the open like that was jarring.

Everybody's saying Peggy should have just divorced Ed and moved to California. Well … maybe if she'd had time, she would have. She hadn't even been to Lifespring yet. She wasn't even the best Peggy she could be! But Rye had to go and run out in front of her car before she could get actualized into her best self.

I think Fargo said, pretty directly in fact, that he got away with it only to be violently taken down himself sooner or later. That's the only endgame in that life.

There's a lot of years between 1979 and 1996. I'm hoping we get a season sometime that tells Hanzee's story. Would love to see McClarnon get a starring role. If it was done right, I might even be willing to forgive the fat, pale crime boss disconnect. I mean, really — you commit something to film in the first…

I may not be in love with this finale, but Peggy's "Maybe I can go to prison in California?" was fantastic. Her whole character, Dunst's performance, everything about it was incredible.

Banshee's coming, at least.

Justified and Mad Men got it right.

She also, as the shining symbol of her success, happiness, and "coming out of all that mess okay" got married, pregnant, and produced a grandchild. While I'm all for her (and Gus's) domestic happiness and procreation of the species and all …. there's no denying that's a rather traditional arc.

I truly believe the finale dropped the ball a bit, in an effort to tie it all up for everybody in the show. The strongest bits were there in the middle, where they made the points you mention above so incredibly well. I love the whole series despite it all, but would watch every single minute of it many times over…

Did anyone else feel that one of the issues with the finale is that it was, despite everything, somewhat of a forced happy ending? Both seasons, really: all that violence and every single one of the characters we truly care about comes out pretty much okay (i.e. alive) in the end? As happy as I am that Hank…

Agree. It's hard to buy Hanzee as a crime boss. Although … all those years with the Gerhardts, he would have learned the ins and outs. I hope we get a season that fleshes out his whole arc at some point.

After watching this a couple weeks ago when it dropped in advance, I'd forgotten that Dec. 11th was the day. I am so excited now that I remember!!

I was so upset when I thought Edgar had dumped Dorothy because of stupid drunk (stage 2? or was it 3 by then?) Jimmy.