But they've done for the year, aren't they?

I saw you talking about it before. I had similar thoughts when she first appeared on The Flash. Ollie's death could have been what turned her. It would create great dynamics for most of the cast.

Which would be so great. And we'd be able to get a Black Canary who is not muddled by poor creative decisions.

That's marginally better but it's not good.

Good lord. That's quite the turn of phrase.

My dream is a season where the rogues are wreaking havoc in service of some greater Legion of doom plan with Iris doing real reporting.

Yeah, I wasn't being hyperbolic. I literally get tears in my eyes when I think of Matthew Rhys in that scene. It's the best acted show on television as well as the best written.

Now I'm thinking about Philip's "training" again. AND I'm crying.

I think her point still stands. Haiti, Jamaica and Brazil were the most profitable colonies for a long time and black people have nothing to show for it except widespread poverty juxtaposed to towering wealth they created. Haiti had to pay France reparation for its liberation.

British, Dutch or Spanish monarchies do not affect Europeans the way chattel slavery affects black people across the Americas. It's not even remotely close to the same thing. Christ.

You mean to tell me you didn't appreciate repetitive and tedious reminders that the characters made the same mistakes? Colour me shocked.

Yeah. I'm not sure yet either.

Also, my point about Gideon is that Barry's contribution to their work shouldn't be understated. It's not the exact same one but it is his technology. I point it it out because all this moralising is getting to be unbearable. These shows love to pile on there heroes and it is giving me season 2 Laurel vibes.

Again, I don't know how to operate the spoiler feature so I won't be specific. But if you're telling me that Barry saving his parents is more dangerous than their actions in the civil war and Japan episodes, I don't know what to say here. Someone commented above that each of the previous times Barry time travelled…

Yeah ok but I'm saying there are so many versions of him running around we don't know if this is Barry's fault. Barry can't be the reason Stein has a daughter that old. I don't see how you can lay the blame for the Reverse Flash messing with the timeline at Barry's feet.

I'm not sure that tracks. Thawne appeared in season 2 of The Flash long before Flashpoint. I'm not sure what version is running around but I don't think Barry's to blame for that.

That same super computer Barry created? It only seems like Barry ruined everything because they keep harping on it. They've done a lot of stupid shit this season that should affect history but the show ignores it. I won't be specific because I can't figure out that spoiler thing. Sara is insane if she thinks she has…

Yeah. I could have done any single show on the CW and gotten multiple examples. For a long time, Walter and Moira were the only example of a healthy relationship on Arrow. I'm actually blanking on another.

I think the blonde with the Hungarian breasts is Jaime Camil's wife, Heidi Balvanera.

I think that is the point of the alien amnesty act.