And they also had had Stefan be straight up told that he was going to hell, he had a lot of redeeming to do and it probably wouldn't do it. So I was expecting him to get a long life of doing good to earn his happy ending. It was awkwardly sloppy having them be like just kidding on Damon and Stefan's redemption we've…

Oh GOD I forgot that's going to happen. Yikes!

I think he's just a lightweight compared to vampire Stefan. There's a real chance he and Damon drank that entire bottle in one sitting.

We've been sending dropping viewership since season 4 but she don't hear us though.

Well even though he is human and rejects vampire blood because of the cure, he has managed to heal from being stabbed in the hand, kicked in the ribs, punched in the face, and shot in the gut remarkably well.

The challenges he gave made sense to me in that it was about revealing their true character. How far would they be willing to go? What would they be willing to do to save themselves or others? And I think it paid off in Damon deciding he was not willing to let anyone else die to obtain unearned absolution. It took him…

Shrug, he was prettier than Julian and Markos. And I actually wanted to know more about the mythology associated with him. I wanted the stone to be destroyed by Ric's sorry ass when it was giving Bonnie nightmares and blackouts long before we even met Julian. And I knew he would be terrible because everyone in prison…

I was watching their scenes last week like Cade/Bonnie! Let's put Enzo and hell and get that show on the road. The decision to make Katherine the big bad when he was so handsome and his stuff was more fun anyway was a letdown.

Don't kill the messenger! Like I said, employing those tropes was in incredibly stupid idea even if they say that it wasn't what it looked like. Whether the failure was writing him as a rapist of someone he'd need to get along with or directing a scene of him feeding on her to look like a rape scene it's still a giant…

ANd how the hell was Stefan able to hold her back from getting to her children? Stefan is a human and she is WAY stronger than him. Her running all slow and not shoving Stefan off and rocketing in there just says that she wasn't THAT pressed to save them. She just wanted to make a show of it.

The official word from the show is that Damon did not rape Caroline. Why they made it a scene that looked so much like one, I have no idea. I have to guess they were going for making it edgy and hoping that the feeding was taken as a rape allegory. But since they did it in a damn bed and it faded to black, there's no…

Caroline always acts like she hates Damon. She snipes at him, just earlier this season she was talking about killing him. She is rude to him and about him. She read Elena the whole riot act about her feelings toward him. When Damon tried to comfort her after her mom's death she was totally bit his head off. I'm not…

I really wish that they had had Alaric take them far away and never return or speak of them and everyone just act like it didn't happen.

And they should have been able to figure that out on their own if they weren't stupid. And Katherine can and will announce herself adequately. She's not one to shy away from dramatic entrances.

Why not Qetsiyah. Homegirl that created the Other Side. Markos, boring king of the travellers? Katherine in her whole life only learned the one traveller spell to steal Elena's body and that was taught to her far enough after the fact that we can guess she never learned magic as a mortal. How on earth she would be…

And Caroline isn't even good at being a mom. Frankly they are both terrible parents. Alaric moved them to Texas because MF was full of dangerous supernatural things and moved them back for no apparent reason. Then Alaric hired a servant of the devil to be their nanny and failed to notice when she took them on a…

And the worst part to me isn't even that it's so often about ships, it's that the ships are terrible. If you MUST make your paranormal series primarily about ships then fine. Paranormal romance it is. But can they at least not be identically angsty, toxic, repetitive relationships? Caroline and Stefan have had like…

Caroline was mad at Damon for EIGHT SEASONS. She literally didn't forgive him until four episodes ago and what Damon did was in the first three episodes of the show. And really it was Sybil that killed Tyler because Damon was being mind controlled at the time. The person that killed Tyler Caroline was mad at and now…

Maybe it's a giant coincidence, but she announced her departure from the show the same day Ian announced his marriage.

I don't think Stefan meant he was going to keep pestering her. I think he meant that he was going to keep doing good things so that she would decide on her own that he was worth forgiving. That sentiment was echoed in him telling Caroline he doesn't expect her to forgive him or believe that he loves her because he's…