So my little I3 that weighs less then the Prius, and has the REx generator might actually score higher. Neat.

Not sure if it qualifies but I have a BMW I3 as my daily commuter. Small, easy to drive and more fun then it should be. Also way more practical with the REx generator and European software setup.

Maybe it is supposed to be a throwback? My 89 K5 has square cup holders. Given that it’s a “square body”, it kinda works with the rest of the SUV but still weird.

I get that, but you cant convince me that they quote 30k, drop the battery, replace one cell for $3500, charge a few hours labor, and only charge the customer 6k. If it works out easy for them, they still charge 30k, citing how difficult it is to drop the battery and reprogram the entire internet through the car. If…

Ohh, I’m interested in rodent eating fungi. Please tell me more...but maybe don’t touch it. I’ve played those games where the plants get a taste for human flesh.

Shouldn’t the title be more like “Stealerships are price gouging BMW i3 owners and replacing entire battery packs for 30 grand or more when often, only one cell for 10% of the price is needed.”

That Jetta....scratches on the hood like it was driven under something. Mismatched wheels, all flat tires...is that a tow bar sticking out of the front? Body accents falling off. Someone had a wing on the back because drilling holes in the truck never causes leaks...  I wouldn’t take this thing if someone paid me to…

This all boils down to the “want” argument. If you tell someone what your criteria is for a car, IE 3+ kid hauler. The right tool for the job is a minivan. Then the stipulation is no minivan. Ok...but why ask then?

You lost me at “dealer installed”. I smell warranty issues and price gouging and a extra forced “maintenance” intervals.

They already are in certain markets. The Chinese company that makes the engines for KTM jumped directly into the ADV bike segment and are doing well. They offer longer warranties and more stuff for the price. It’s a ballsy jump considering it is the most competitive segment currently but it is very similar to what…

Brake lines stretch right?....right?!

My neighbor across the street begs to differ. If you listen on a quiet night, you can hear the straight pipes on his donked 80s buick regal for about 20 miles. May he rot in hell.

Diesel, manual, regular cab, long bed, mid-sized, 4x4 pickup... 

My experience wasnt much of a problem at stoplights but in stop and go traffic, it was like the AC didn’t work.  Like I mentioned to someone else, they were FCA products so the systems were probably the bottom of the barrel in terms of the car world.

Nice. This is the correct answer in my humble and meaningless opinion.

My electric and the wife’s hybrid dont have those issues like you said. I’ve only experienced it on super hot days (90+) with a couple rental cars I had 7 years or so ago.  To be fair, they were from the FCA family so the systems were probably the worst I could run into.

Only issue I’ve ever had with a start/stop system is on super hot days. The AC compressor is no longer turning. That’s bad mmmmkay. It is much harder to play catch up with AC vs maintaining a temp.

I’m right there with you. I have a 20 ultra and the specs aren’t much different for the big one. Newer revision on the processor and a better camera along with software toys but the battery is similar, as is the display. Ram is the same. Hard to justify over my nearly 4 year old phone...which feels strange.

There will be software “adjustments” that can be made via an app and bluetooth OBDII reader. I have a 10 year old bmw and I can change damn near anything the computer can do.

I really want to like this car and I’m a big fan of 928s and 944s...  It looks great from 50 feet..but the closer you get, the more you see the bad execution of the mods and potential problems.  The price isn’t outrageous and I’d be sorely tempted if the body panels actually lined up well...except they dont.  Also:…