I think that’s pretty fair.
I think that’s pretty fair.
Okay, so-I’m pretty sure I’m mixed [no idea who my bio parents are so tracing my racial origins is tough, to say the least]. But that means that like 98% of the time I experience tremendous white privilege, and the other 2% of the time I am standing with my mother [who I am fairly certain I am not biologically related…
I mean-how do you or anyone else know or judge that though? I live my whole life and there’s no one watching, right? So-I mean most of the things I do that are trying to be an ally or stand up for racial justice, no one ever sees.
I mean, I think that’s fine-it’s her life, her love. She has the right to give it to whoever she wants. I just don’t really understand why I need to give love or support to people who don’t do the same for me.
I mean, I’m saying it from a whiny, can’t ever win perspective. I feel like if I stand up for POC I get yelled at for speaking about stuff I supposedly don’t know anything about, but if I say nothing I’m implicated in racism.
I mean-can we count on each other, though? When I need someone to stand up for the rights of poor women or disabled women or Jewish women, do you stand up for me?
First of all, racism is institutionalized and aimed at POC, not white people. Second, accusing people of things they have actually done is not somehow attacking someone.
What are you saying?
I mean-yeah. Unite, but also that means recognizing intersectionality means all our oppressions really are connected. It’s hard to mention every group but they could have created an intersectional feminist analysis. Inviting feminist leaders to speak who are not best known for being actresses would help.
Honestly, I wonder if anyone of any race is ever going to really have my back in being a disabled person, either, or if anyone really cares what it’s like to be in pain all the time and not be able to trust your mind or keep down food or even remember huge swaths of my life. I think the truth is that the only people…
Honestly, I think more people would be willing to show up if they didn’t feel so attacked all the time. That does not mean I disagree with the values or goals of Black Lives Matter, or of the women’s march or anything else. I just think that people with self-respect and self-esteem are going to balk at being…
I mean, I don’t necessarily know about false divisions. I think the divisions are real, and I’ve heard from enough POC who have said so to know they are historically rooted and deeply felt. I just think that we need to recognize ALL the divisions, all the marginalized groups who stereotypical feminism and liberalism…
I kind of have a question too about this idea of white people being my people, or my community, or people I am somehow responsible for. I definitely try to call other white people on their shit, so if that’s what that means, then okay, sure. In terms of the idea we somehow have a sense of community or shared culture…
I mean I kind of think it’s just as bad though to sort of pat ourselves on the back for knowing better, or being more liberal, and then condemn all those OTHER white women. Like, it’s us too.
I’m still entirely confused about why you think I’m Christian, or pro-life, or anything else. Also, the comment about having babies with my father was pretty below the belt, considering he actually molested me. So probably I’m not the one behaving like an ignorant lunatic, considering your entire argument seems to be…
Yeah, I totally have PTSD which in this case means I’m petrified of crossing someone else’ boundaries. Your reminder that I’m not somehow being abusive by wanting to connect with people, though, is appreciated.
I’m having trouble taking you seriously because of your name on here, but I’ll try.
Really? It’s like fifteen lines long. If you can’t read that, how do you deal with, like, actual BOOKS?
Thanks! I mean I have a lot of convos with other white people about how awful racist shit is but not sure that’s all that useful, except maybe we’re both learning something. and I try to have difficult convos with people when they’re being assholes, or call them out in class. It’s not much or anything but-well and I’m…
I mean, first off, you’re totally leaving out everyone who disagrees with you—actually, you’re leaving out anyone except about five people other than yourself by your statement “the rest of us.” Second, “up and down these threads?” I’ve made like three comments today, so that seems a bit of an exaggeration. Third,…