I'm just curious... do realize how unpleasant the barrage of gifs is? Every time I come here there are 6 that all want to load at once so, despite my not bad bandwidth, none of them loads well and so none of them plays smoothly. So then I've got a bunch of jerky stuttering gifs of things I don't really care about…

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Ah the flugelstone maneuver. So popular with people who just randomly make things I've said, toss in their own bloated persecution complex and then conclude that calling my argument a bad name makes it a bad argument.

Ahh the bad paraphrase argument. "I'll rewrite what you said and then claim you're saying different things !" Genius!

Yes, yes... concern trolling, slut shaming, it's a giant mixed bag on unjustified judgement. It's not as though Miley has tens of millions (probably more) of teenage girls as fans and is teaching them that the good thing to do with your life is fuck older creepy guys, do drugs and post naked pictures of yourself on…

Either way you're denying her agency.

Just out of a morbid curiosity... could you point me to the part where Sinead says anything like "Miley, you are responsible for the objectification of women's bodies in entertainment."?

Making that advice PUBLIC is putting the responsibility of stopping the objectification of women in entertainment on Mily Cyrus, which is frankly ridiculous.

But claiming she needs to temper all of her choices as an adult "because think of of the children" is pretty fucked up.

Do those other people take any responsibility for their actions? As far as I know they do. To the extent they are role models (and none except maybe Obama is nearly as much of one as Miley is) then do they accept that their actions help shape the behaviour of young people, or do they pretty much just act however they…

I wouldn't infantilize her ability to make choices if she made the choices an adult would make.

So coaching doesn't matter. Gotcha.

So the NFL coaches will win because they were elite college coaches and Saban will lose because he is the most elite college coach?

Well... actually I kind of think he would. He's got some yoda/jedi shit going on with that team.

Right. Because coaching and play calling have nothing to do at all with who wins a football game.

The Vancouver Grizzlies were so close... they just picked the wrong bear.

No... people see it as slut shaming because they like Miley.

I was 20 not so long ago and I can only imagine what I'd be acting like with that much money and fame at that age... especially when my personal life has never, ever been personal and I spent my teen years as TV role model for little girls, having to always watch everything I say and do. She's finally got a little…

If she's an adult could you fill me in when she's planning on acting like one? Worse yet, you and other people here seem to want to tell us all she's an adult but then you absolve her of any responsibility for her actions. She's an adult... who bears no responsibility for the influence she has on young women.

A grown up? Yeah totally: http://gawker.com/so-much-for-si… Notice the old white guy behind the camera making money off of her. He's not making nearly as much as her label though.