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No. Not at all correct. Did you bother to actually research the surrogacy laws for the countries you listed? Here’s what I found. I’ll put the important stuff in bold so you can follow along:

I didn’t ask for a list of countries with free healthcare and a list of countries who allow paid surrogacy. I asked for a list of countries that allow both. Read through them as I have done and get back to me. Can you explain what a Karen” is? You keep using that word, but I don’t think it means what you think it

I’m not following what you are saying. In what countries is healthcare free AND paid surrogacy is legal?

And I hope you take your old fat ass to a blood donation center and do something productive with all your righteous indignation about body autonomy. Chop, chop. Kids with cancer are waiting for you.

Agreed. If you can somehow muster the strength within you to take your old fat ass to a blood donation center I consider it a win for humanity.

Okay, buddy. Protip when donating blood/platelets: I take a Flintstones’ vitamin with iron because occasionally my iron is low around my period, even though I eat red meat and dark green vegetables.

You’ve called me stupid at least a dozen times and I’ve patiently continued to engage in discussions with you. Are you too old and fat to donate blood or platelets? That’s a better use of your time, rather than spinning yourself into a tizzy on the Internet. Rest up, drink water. Be useful to the rest of humanity. 

I already said they were exploitative:

It wasn’t. I asked you what it cost to rent your uterus and you lost your shit. Like you’re losing your shit right now.

I did. I answered with a situation of real prisoners being recruited to do real work as firefighters. Just because it’s inconvenient for your argument doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Do you scream at people IRL, too? When you were a kid, did you lose your shit if they didn’t want to play the make believe game according

You first. You brought up firefighters. 

LOL, no. Talk about distractions... You brought up firefighters and I asked about prisoners being hired to fight fires. Let’s continue down your distraction. Is it exploitative to hire prisoners to fight wild fires?

Of course I think high risk jobs can be highly exploitative. What on earth did you glean from my replies that would indicate otherwise? What do you think about the ethics of the state of California hiring prisoners to fight wild fires?

A person’s individual opinion does not excuse an exploitative system.

Yeah if everything were free no one would work! Imagine that!

Economics aren’t a bullshit distraction. They are a fundamental reason why women do it. I’m not infantilizing surrogates. I’m holding wealthy people accountable for exploiting them. As I have said in many different ways in the numerous replies: if people didn’t have to worry about food, shelter, and healthcare, you’d

It is absolutely relevant to this discussion because we’re talking about paid surrogacy. You can’t ignore the economics involved because it’s philosophically inconvenient to your argument. Bodily autonomy isn’t some fucking trump card you can lay down any time you don’t want to consider the real material conditions

I think you’re thinking of “Visions” cookware. It’s not the same material as Pyrex, although the brand is owned by Pyrex:

As I’ve said elsewhere, you aren’t entitled to a genetic copy of yourself. Sometimes shit doesn’t work out. Poor people don’t exist for your wish fulfillment.

You’re the second person who refused to name your price.