For the first time in this country’s history, white people are occasionally made to watch their fucking mouths, keep their hands to themselves, wait their turn. It feels like an outrage and like something is being taken away from them, even though they still have much of the privilege they always have. They’re just…

I watched this CNN interview with a former white supremacist and he described going to the rallies as the ultimate/super boost to your self esteem. You’re chasing the feeling more than actual facts.

I, a white guy, when I saw this at work, was planning on typing out a long response to you, explaining whiteness as sociological construct and why it came to be when I got home. I see now that’s unnecessary as a bunch of people have already done it far better than I would have, yet you ignore them. Worse, you’re…

Apparently white culture is avocado on toast.

I don’t know what kind of culture you have and I’m not claiming that I do, I sure don’t recall saying anything about culture, white or otherwise, but you sure are clinging onto this concept of “whiteness” as if it is anything other than a tool for oppression. What I described isn’t a case where “whiteness” is merely…

Ok – this is going to be a long response – so bear with me. With the help of some links to other resources, I’m going to attempt to explain the origins of whiteness, the difference between whiteness and white people/people of European descent, and why “whiteness” is not something that should be…

Beautifully done. Thank you.

No, you, the one who is least knowledgeable, as demonstrated by several commenters telling you so, attempted to deflect by demanding I answer a question instead of answering a simple one about your own purported culture, which you also described as “amorphous.” What is it you could possibly be right about, since you…

“Whiteness” is something that was legislated into being in Virginia in the late 1600s, there was nothing “organic” about it. It was created specifically to prevent riots and uprisings by separating white and non-white bonded servants, and more importantly to prevent unity amongst them so they would not band together…

Here, let’s do this: “white culture” is not in danger. It will not be erased. Ever.

Come on, you know I did not admit any such thing, especially since the facts of actual history are there for you to discover. You yourself claim that there is this thing called white culture, but then describe it as “amorphous,” and when I ask you to define what it means to you, you refuse to do so. All because you…

“You can’t seperate whiteness from white people nor can you argue that whiteness is a creation [...]”

“You can’t seperate whiteness from white people” yes, you can. Latino’s constantly side with white supremacy therefore engaging in ‘whiteness.’ You can be a person of color and engage in ‘whiteness.’

Again, there are historical facts about the creation of the concept of whiteness that you can read up on if you are interested in learning about that information. If you aren’t interested in learning about that, I don’t know what else can be said about it.

Oh, you need to do some reading about the creation of the concept of whiteness. Google it if you are interested.

Whiteness ≠ White people. Here’s a pretty good explanation from the old journal Race Traitor:

Whiteness and white people are two different things. There is no redeeming value in whiteness, which was created to separate one group of people from everyone else, assert that manufactured group’s superiority, and oppress others, often on a sliding scale of. White people benefit from this system whether they mean to…

I’m responding to you because others already have. But your response to Kirsten’s powerful piece is extremely distasteful and disrespectful. Have some goddamn respect for her work and the larger message.

Thank you Kirsten, this was poetically written and necessarily brutal. I am humbled by the excellent truth-telling being done by black womxn writers at The Root, and also by the fierce commenters who fight the good fight on the daily. Sending radical love your direction y’all.