Shoot even this episode was healthy till about the middle of the show.

In the DCAU that was one of the interesting things they played up in the differences between Bruce Wayne and Terry Mcginnis. Take how Batman is in Mask of Phantasm, both in the present day and the flashbacks and they tie it together with Phantasm being sent to kill Terry's parents and Waller telling Terry that he is…

Though Barry mentions he missed the funeral.

They are for sure playing the long game on whoever she's dating so they could go to that well (which I'm not sure I'd like to see that cliche, but they probably could make it work), though I like your idea of Matt Smith playing Mirror Master.

With the training, fixing things, and magic in some ways was like the 1st Ninja Turtles movie, but that was probably coincidence.

Okay, I have to agree with that.

If they haven't already, that's on them.

On that note, I can't believe we've gone this long and Meryln and mama Lance still haven't interacted on screen. Related sidenote, these two episodes are the closest that either show has ever come to paying off that she lives in Central City and not Random City (also they just teased us with Sara's 1st stop on her…

It's not like he's killed anyone in a long while?

He probably has two. Just one is still in box.

So Malcolm showing up on Flash makes even more sense and that reminds me, when are we going to learn what deal he made with Oliver to become the demon's head?

While I think that it's reasonable for them to encourage and expect most watching the show live are watching both as one big combined show, I do agree that they should release a combined BluRay box set. I watched SG1 and Atlantis that way and all that disc swapping was annoying. I would pay extra for a BluRay box set…

Like that really matters in a place like Star City.

I hadn’t thought about Thea and I think at this point when Laurel finds out she should roll her eyes, be like "figures", and move on.

My 1st thought on Malcolm working with Savage is that he's trying to find a way to fix or replace the Pit.

I didn't think of that, but Andy Diggle did come to mind.

I'm cool with him being obsessed with her as along as it's much bigger than that (which it already is) and they handle better than they did with Slade.

Basically I thought when he left to find out if the kid was his was a very a healthy and reasonable conversation. I do think she was right to be ticked when he lied later if not a bit over the top. Not S3 cry Felicity but close. I've said this else in the thread but on the do over I thought he would tell Felicity…

Pretty much, I'm horrible with women and I even wonder sometimes about the writers.

This is exactly what I thought was going to happen on the do over.