Not to be the cliche, but I'm guessing my Mother/sister don't count...

Uhg, this whole "You should have to given up a part of who you are to have a relationship with a women" is one of the worst offenders pounding away the "WOMEN HATE GEEKS" message. And it makes my skin crawl to see works with it as a major theme/plot device be so popular.

No, I've said multiple time "Harassment is never okay and should never be tolerated".

You shouldn't. It's a show based around exploitation so it doesn't surprise me to hear it's equal opportunity with that. My point has NEVER been to say Women AREN'T marginalized, only that geeks, in general, are also, even if to a lesser extent. In order for both groups to to terms, there is going to need to be…

Part of the problem is the very fact that many guys don't see the problem with the status quo.

I thought D2 was right after D1, like maybe after the VN but pretty close to right after.

I wonder if we will get to play as Fallen Angel Flonne in D2.

Hrm, there is a level of nuance to this all that's hard to communicate... It's like... the DM of a D&D game who doesn't know you personally not letting join the game cause he assume you'll just be trouble/drama (because that's the experience he's had).

Huh this reminds me of this series of anime shorts about loli witches I remember watching...

I sorry to hear about that, it sounds like they were acting like real jerks. That sort of thing is terrible and I have no clue why they would ever even think they should act like that. Some people are just motivated be the fear of anything different and nothing else. I really hope that sense then you've been able…

For 1. Yes, they probably do, but their thought process isn't going to be changed by disregarding their suffering. Telling then they need to just suck it up and deal with it is just going to further reinforce the thought of "Women hate geeks"/"I want nothing to do with women cause they make me feel bad about myself,…

It not warranted but it IS understandable in so far that there reasons why some male geeks act the way they do and it's possible for you to be aware of what thosr reasons are, even if you don't agree with them.

I never claimed to, at most I said that responding to distrust with anger, even if it's a justified anger, is only going to lad to perpetuating the cycle of hate.

The problem is non-geeks look at geeks and think their priories are screwed up. Geek look at non-geeks and think they just don't get it. Both groups to a certain extent both want to be separate and want to differentiate themselves from the other.

For part 1, how do you truly know how deep it might be for that person and what gives you the right to decide how deep is 'deep enough it matters'.

Traditionally, a geek wasn't just someone with a passing interest in something, a geek was someone who was so into something it changed how they lived their lives. An obsession if you will.

Trust me, it's not so simple. Confidence isn't an all encompassing trait. I have confidence in somethings but not in others.

Trust me, there are no women attracted to me, I'm the complete loser of the genetic lottery in that sense.

I do get that, but this isn't a stereotype that was built up over a couple of years. It's going to take time and understanding from BOTH sides. It's not going to just change overnight.

In, just my PERSONAL experience. Which is super limited to just places I have lived and been while I was there. I'm not saying it DOESN'T happen, I just really haven't seen it happen around me. Maybe I'm just blind and my brain is addled on testosterone and misogyny so deep I am incapable of noticing it.:/