So how does Worf being sent in to kill Gowron and to install the Fed friendly Martok sit with you as Klingon Emperor?

Someone who doesn’t realize or recognize Homer’s Odyssey predates Canterbury Tales by what? A couple millennia? Sad that some people are so limited and are clearly nowhere close to the viewer you think you are.

Actually, I’ve been finding the Moclan are being slowly revealed as I guess what they are, which actually is a lot more interesting than what people are seeing on the most shallow levels for the most part. And I can appreciate them far more as alien beings more akin biologically to cats or deer that made a radical…

Needed to get some blistering hatred off your chest did you? Man that was ugly in the most hyperbolic way.

Maybe also check out the combustibility of fluorine while you are at it.

So when Star Fleet officers or officials are sent on covert missions to disrupt alien governments, to prop up revolutionary movements or commit acts of terrorism in order to safeguard the people of the Federation its somehow OK as long as its not being done by a Section 31? Because this sort of thing has occurred.…

I suspect that the Moclan’s were once a more normal species, but decided that the violence cause by natural evolution where it came to reproduction had to end, and chose to eliminate women from the gene pool as much as possible, and strictly regiment their society to reduce violence and chaos to a minimum so they…

Why?  The Union is pretty much guilty of many of the things the Moclan’s do in their own way.

For the most part I would agree. However, the last two eps are primarily based on some pretty bad material that was actually realized better, IMHO, than the original TNG eps they are redoing.

Honestly, Union citizens in general and the Orviller crew in particular repeatedly pulls similar shit that they look down on the Moclans for doing.  If there’s a breakdown, it will most likely be due to Union hypocrisy.

Many people from the Union appear to have a personal sense of smug superiority over cultures they consider inferior. We’ve seen that demonstrated over and over again. However, its been demonstrated that it is, in many cases we have seen, rather self serving and hypocritical.

All things considered I don’t think Ed or the Union are in a moral position to judge the Moclans considering what we’ve seen of the Union in general and Ed in particular.

Why do you think the concept of Section 31 can’t serve a purpose during the mid 23rd century?

Maybe Seth knows Jay Leno too.

Oh, on TNG and VOY, a lot of time was spent pontificating, most notably Captain’s Picard and Hepburn regarding how morally superior they were. To their credit, Kirk and Sisko actually offered introspection along with pontification.  But at this point, Mercer doesn’t have a moral leg to stand on.

And the trouble is, we’ve seen it time and time again that the Union in general and Captain Mercer in particular is in no way more developed.

I guess you aren’t going to admit you forgot the American Civil War happened, eh?

Again, many sovereign governments the Federation would disagree with you and there is plenty of evidence throughout EACH and EVERY series that the Federation and its citizens aren’t as innocent as you claim and has and does engage in a whole lot of objectionable activity that it and they happily justify up to and…

Not sure how this ep was even in the same galactic cluster(f**k) of an episode where Lt. Friend turned into a creature made up of a hundred penises.

Not nearly as much as the Moclan ship in this week’s Orville.