True, but the fact that she can report it and never chose to do it, and that the series has played the sexual harassment for laughs is quite an indictment. Not to mention that after the previous episode of her gutting and shooting dead her rescuer, we get her confronting Yaphit with an Orville phaser is cringe…

Nah, if anything they treat the Orville with such bewildering degree of reverence that you’d think the reviewer is one of those people who would swear blind that TNG’s output prior to Q-Who was the best run of Star Trek ever.

The *only* people the episode shows being up for the 10 million downvote are men. The only ‘crimes’ we see being voted for are the disrespect of women. The show where Lamarr is first herded into and completely demonstrates he doesn’t care at all is a parody of The View. The person they ‘reeducate’ to ‘be better’: a…

IDIC.

Stargate, Farscape and Killjoys show it is possible to being both funny and dramatic. I think the problem with The Orville is Seth. And as long as this is treated as his own personal vanity project, it going to have problems, because he seems to think that he can push his most offensive impulses into the mix and…

With empasis on Naked this time around?

Fox. And then all the Discovery pre-haters climbed on board and pronounced the second coming of TNG (because, you know, Beige sets and color coded uniforms). Many of them still swear blind it is the “true soul” of Star Trek.

To be fair, that has been mostly the case. The only two headscratchers are this ep and the Krill infiltration episode, the rest have been mostly them stumbling into something that turns out to be a lot bigger then expected.

Measure for Measure, it seems in the end they considered it Much Ado about Nothing. Well, as You Like it.

But at least Cornwall was going to relieve him of duty. And she’s also his superior officer and a professional psychologist. You get courtmartialled or at best reprimanded and demoted for the kind of behavior she pulled and lose your medical license. And yes, it happens a lot in the military and among…

So, this is just like Hollywood then, you know, Seth MacFarlane’s culture?

But that is MacFarlane. he’s the producer, sole writer of most of the eps, and the star and apperently casting exec. Its a full on vanity project no one can say that he doesn’t completely own everything in it. You can’t really seaparate it from him, because he doesn’t either.

Well, if you don’t screw up your missions, at the end of the day the people behind the lines tend to view you in a more competent light than they might otherwise regardless of whether its because you’re very lucky or the opposition you face turned out to be stupid.

Well, Hollywood has a particular culture which is has stuck to over the many decades its been around, does it not? And imposing our values on the film industry is wrong then?

I can’t argue that. Rob is brilliant in everything he does. Doesn’t matter if its this, or anything from The Grinder to Code Black.

I do remind people that at least Roddenberry kept the sexual harrassment *off camera* when he was producing ST for a reason.

Ironically, Roddenberry adapted aspects of the radio series Voyage of the Scarlett Queen when he devised Star Trek, including things like log entries and a hot chick (usually a femme fatale) for the Captain to romance everywhere they dropped anchor.

Well, this is what MacFarlane does. Look at Majority Rules. It’s essentially an opinion piece positing that men who sexually harass women for some *harmless fun* are the true victims of social media.

Yet there are people who will swear blind that the Orville is more true to Star Trek in *every single way* than Discovery. I’m thinking they hold an amazingly deep fondness for Star Trek’s absolute worst episodes.

MacFarlanesque.