Seems like the old “lets beat down and overwork our already beaten down underpaid employees. Underpaying and overworking people who are the front line of food safety is not a good idea. 

No it’s really more like the quality of the meat was fine before, slicing it in the store wasn’t going to magically make it even better.

Executives need to justify their pay by making arbitrary decisions!

I work at shoprite, don’t make much more than minimum wage - and I can tell you at least in my store, on my shift those slicers are cleaned so well I’d happily serve my own grandmother anything off them. Not all of us are lazy and incompetent - in fact most of the people I work with bust their rears every shift.

I had a motorized meat slicer in my kitchen for years. Nothing over the top or industrial grade but it was great for more than just slicing meats; good for certain cheeses and veggies too. You could get paper-thin onion slices.

Where was it reported that he hired the armorer?

I am more concerned about the fact that it has been 15 years since I tried my last criminal case, I don’t practice that kind of law anymore (although I have been a lawyer for 20 years), and I don’t have access to the evidence in the case. There are clear limits to my knowledge here, and I am doing some speculating…

I agree, although I will say that getting to culpability is a whole lot easier when you are talking about preponderance of the evidence rather than reasonable doubt. I really could see civil liability here, but as you say there are a lot of things that need to be established to get there.

The fact that in all this time the prosecution has never seemed to give even a moment’s consideration to his producer credit makes me think there can’t possibly be any liability there. It’s never been truly made clear to the public whether it was a vanity title or if he had some control in his role as producer, but…

I agree with both of these comments. I spent the first five years of my career as a criminal defense attorney, and I truly don’t get this prosecution. Sure you don’t have to have deliberation or criminal intent for involuntary manslaughter, but you do have to have a degree of recklessness or negligence that is much…

It’s even weirder when you consider that the closest analogue to this case — the 1993 accidental shooting death of Brandon Lee — resulted in the DA declining to press charges even though (and I’m paraphrasing) negligence was factor, there was no evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

So, if they’re not charging him as a…

Exactly. Baldwin may be a huge tool, but there’s no way this is his fault unless he did something like grab the gun from the armorer prematurely, elbow him in the face and said, “Fuck off, let’s do this!”

Man, these prosecutors really have a hate-boner for Baldwin.

Yeah, and the fact that they’re not holding him liable as producer makes it even weirder, because I sincerely doubt that prosecutors would be this aggressive if Alec Baldwin’s stunt double were the one who pulled the trigger. (I’m also certain that social media users—and AVC writers—would be way more sympathetic if it…

Fair, but Baldwin wasn’t the armorer. They don’t appear to be holding him liable as a producer of the film who (at least nominally) supervised the armorer, since if that were the case, it wouldn’t matter if he pulled the trigger or not.  So the theory seems to be that, in his role as an actor in the movie, he was…

Oh I get it, I’m just saying it sounds weird. When you see it written out like that. And are stoned. 

FFS way to make me take Baldwin’s side in something, New Mexico.

With such oppressive weight, moving it is no doubt a pressing concern. Certainly worthy of a press release.

Wow.  Years ago I worked with a guy that was a mechanical tech that had done testing.  He had worked on de-bugging a crash test system for trucks back in the 80s.  Before witnessing a test, he refused to wear seatbelts. Wanted to be thrown clear and all that BS.  Saw his first crash test and the unbelted dummy smashed…

Great response!