Haha no I don’t even own a GM but I just hate seeing them get shit on constantly by enthusiasts.

180HP I believe actually.

Fuck yes.

That would be sick. A hot hatch with Toyota reliability? Sign me up.

They really need to make a TRD a trim like Lexus has with F-Sport or even the standalone performance F.

I would take this over the new Accord any day. And I say that as someone who loves Honda and even owned the 2016 Accord V6 Touring Sedan which might be the most beautiful Accord ever made. This new Camry seems to be the direct descendant of that car. The new Accord is striking from some angles but overall its just too…

Well I have a 2016 Lexus GS 350 AWD F-Sport that is incredible, so yes.

Didn’t you know? They only love Kias here and everything else is ugly or horrible.

Agreed. The price on that thing is laughable. In summer of 2016 I was in the market and was almost settled on a V6 Accord when I decided to check out the new Cruze. The top trim Cruze was $33K CAD while the Accord V6 Touring was coming out to be $40.5K CAD. I walked out of the Chevy dealership laughing.

Well most performance luxury sedans are heavy. People want a substantial and luxurious car but also has excellent 0-60 times. And yes the FiST is awesome indeed but I was making more of a point that enthusiasts will talk about buying this car and that car but tend to be mostly cheapskates so were never going to buy a…

Haha hey so am I! But at least we got those. You’d be surprised how many enthusiasts exist only to shit on everything. Just go through the comments below. Wait I forgot. If it had a Kia badge it would be praised as daring and forward thinking. GM? Must be terrible no matter what

Ah yes. Car enthusiasts. If car makers build SUVs then they are derided for not building pure performance sedans. If they build performance sedans than they are derided for not building anything with utility. And then the enthusiast goes and buys a Ford Fucking Fiesta.

Stunning :)

I have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. It’s an American car because Dodge is American. Nobody calls the ML SUV by Benz an American car. Yes it’s built in America but it’s still German and people buy it because it’s German. You can build a car anywhere in the world but it’s the brand that connects it to the…

It’s still an American car man. I’m Canadian and live in Brampton, the town where the Charger is built. NOBODY here calls it a Canadian car.

Damn that Cadillac concept would make people forget about BMW and Lexus in a day. Why don’t build that? It’s pure Americana esp with the interior colour. I’d sell my GS in a second for it.

Oddly enough there are quite a few Lincoln showrooms here in the Toronto area. Albeit mostly with Ford attached to it but still. And I think that really hurts the brand (same with Cadillac). My Lexus dealer is stand alone and Toyota is nowhere to be found. Makes me feel like the HUGE car payment per month is worth it.

It’s not going anywhere you fucking Russian trash

These motherfuckers don’t even try anymore. They used to try to spin up a good convincing story about how Russia is dangerous or how the Dems are evil.

Shut your fucking Russian mouth