Brilliant piece. Thanks, Jenna.

Yes, but there may be a strong connection between the fact that the overwhelming majority of SATMs are female and the lack of female representation in a wide variety of different fields (including politics, which affects all of us directly). The fact that women often choose to stay home for several years is often…

This is just embarrassing. Jesus Christ.

You could just skip these articles if you don't like them, you know. No one is forcing you to read all of them. (or if you can't tell if you won't like it, just stop reading when you realize it and move on to something else...)

I'm a woman who's always identified as feminist: no, it's not obvious. Care to elaborate? And thanks for shitting on him with your assumptions, real helpful.

That's just a nice way of saying "what do you think you'll do next?" — it's not as blunt. I don't think anyone really thinks it's possible that you haven't even thought about it at all (depending on your age, I guess).

Yeah, but that's an (unfortunate?) side effect of the fashion industry presuming that we *want* to show our chests. Although I've heard the argument that women totally covering up neck-down looks weird (in a button-down shirt, for example) not only because we're not as used to it, but because having one piece of cloth…

God damn. Visiting Jezebel is getting really motherfucking depressing these days. (see: trollish replies)

You're right in that women are encouraged to show more skin than men (in many cases, you can't even find female clothing that is as "modest" as male clothing) and are then punished or shamed for it. However, the reality of this is that men really do have a consistent standard. For the most part, in casual settings…

I would definitely say there's a stigma against men showing too much skin, maybe more so than for women. I don't think you can argue that on the whole, men show just as much of their bodies as women do. That may be the case in certain instances, but certainly not most. Even with your examples, I hardly ever see men in…

If anything that only supports his point. If you consider breasts to be a sex characteristic and male chests not to be, then it would make even less sense that men can't show chest hair but women can show cleavage.

I'm no fan of Katy Perry, but what's so wrong with the whipped-cream-gun bra? It never seemed all that objectifying to me; it seemed like she was having fun with her body and making fun of the expectations to present herself as sexualized in a tongue-in-cheek way.

I mean, I'd prefer to just have everything on one page and not have to reload everything. The system you describe is standard and I've had extensive experience with it, and I'd still prefer it to this. Remembering the position would help a lot though. If it did that, I'm not sure I'd actively complain about it anymore.

Oh, please. I would agree with you if this were posted in another thread, but having this discussion here, in this thread, where there are dangerous comments of the kind I mentioned, is just offensive. And yeah — my comment has relevance, yours doesn't. As Very_incredulous notes, it owuld be hard to even imagine what…

Thank you.

Can we go back to a system without two stupid columns and having to load a new page for every comment longer than 3 sentences (and then reload the whole stream again and search through hundreds of comments to find the spot where you left it — and then repeat ad infinitum)? Please? This is seriously the worst and after…

And yet there's a comment on this post calling for the murder of the writer and her whole family.

Fair. Not to mention that homosexual behavior is also "natural," especially among primates, but it's also been noted among animals of many different species.

Yes it does, because it is only heteronormativity at work to say that someone choosing to be gay are "really straight." If choosing your sexual attraction were possible, one could choose to be straight as well (by your logic, would they be "really gay"?). The way you've formulated it is in fact not choice at all, it's…

I'm interested!